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Hanging accomplished but no closer to success

Posted: Friday, December 29, 2006 7:17 PM by Jen Brown

By Bob Shrum

The dictator is dead - and few will mourn his passing. The process that condemned him was hardly a model of jurisprudence, but few Americans will raise their voices to object. While Saddam Hussein’s execution will be met with joy by the dominant Shiite in Iraq, the danger is that it will inflame the Sunni insurgents, but they are already on the attack everyday.

The bottom line is this: Hanging Accomplished won’t bring us any closer to success in Iraq than Mission Accomplished did. For America, the war in Iraq is over except for the dying. And the toll will go higher, both among our soldiers and Iraqi civilians, as President Bush rejects the Baker Commission recommendations and prolongs or escalates the war.

A surge in U.S. forces is a reckless gamble that treats our troops as fodder in an attempt to redeem a hopeless policy. The generals on the ground advised for months that a surge would just swell the violence. But the president is taking time to cook the advice just as his administration cooked the intelligence before the invasion of Iraq. He’ll extract the counsel he wants, from enough compliant officials, to push ahead with another predetermined decision and twenty to thirty thousand more Americans will be sent to Iraq "temporarily." They will then be kept there indefinitely by this administration as Surge Accomplished fuels instead of ending the insurgency. Truly, this is and will be a case of failure as an excuse for its own perpetuation.

Saddam Hussein will be in his grave. But the United States will be deeper in the quagmire. And the hangman’s noose can’t change that reality.

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Hanging Saddam Hussein will prove in the future years to be a mistake, just as the executions following the victor trials in Nuremburg proved to serve little purpose. I feel that the murder of Hussein will only cause this war to expand harder and far beyond the borders of Iraq. We killed his brothers, his 16 y/o son, now are about to execute more of his family. Is there no end? Defendents at Nuremburg (1946) were selected by lottery, not be guilt, from the departments they represented in the German government so we could beat our chests like stone-age apes; same now in Iraq.
Whatever you thought Saddam's fate should be the way the sentence was taken out will haunt us for years. Would it not have better if there was at least on uniformed person at the hanging.It looked like four thugs went out found a rope and strung up a cattle rustler. Shouldn't the government of Iraq made an attempt to bring some dignity to the situation. Saddam was the only one who conducted himself with any dignity.It will look throughtout history that a mob not a government carried out the sentence.
You are right, and even thought the Butcher of Baghdad is gone, it won't change anything either in Iraq, or in the mind of George (Wrong) Bush. He has his mind made up that we are going to stay there, at least until he is out of office, and nothing is going to make him change his mind. Iraq didn't ask for us to take Saddam out, and those people don't want our troops in their country. So what is Dubbya going to do? Put 30,000 more troops in? If that is what he plans, there will be a re-instatement of the draft, because he doesn't have any choice. We don't have the soldiers to bolster the ones that are already there.
Mr. Shrum I agree with a great deal of what you have said. We (the US) is in over its head in Iraq and sinking deeper and deeper every day. Sadam was removed from power by the US and its allies. Under the Geneva Convention we have an obligation to stabilize the new government, the infrastructure, and living conditions in Iraq. Now Sadam has been put to death. And while the information I have read indicates that thus far the violence in Iraq has not increased - yet. It is my personal opinion that it will in time and as you stated more Americans will be sent to Iraq "temporarily" in an attempt to stabilize the country. Anyone who looks at the deaths so far, which has now topped 3,000 of US soldiers, can easily see that with more troops, there will be more deaths. Do I have an answer for this catastrophe? No, unfortunately I don't, and I seriously doubt that our President does either. Now that we are in this predicament and have the advantage of hindsight, I would like to know you opinion on a slightly different, but related topic. Are any or all countries obligated to physically interfere (i.e., invade, overthrow, occupy) with a nation where the standing government is performing atrocities, or should these countries be left to deal with their internal issues as long as they do not extend past their boarders?
Saddam might be dead, but you can't kill a mentality. The American peoples patience has grown thin with this war and want it to go away. Visions of Viet Nam are reappearing in that region and when we pull out the power struggle of that area will continue and the Iraqi people will be no better off, so what was accomplished?
According to Bush, Hussein received a fair trial. According to Human Rights Watch, "The execution of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein following a deeply flawed trial for crimes against humanity marks a significant step away from respect for human rights and the rule of law in Iraq." The mishandling of Saddam Hussein proves as much as any Broward County election fraud that Bush truly is America's Sore Loserman.
Very astute, and succinctly put!
I seriously doubt if Saddam Hussein is dead. He was such a high profile political personality in the international scene and may have been very valuable to insiders in the know. People in high places may have arranged the execution as a put up deal. Saddam might well be sitting on a beach somewhere, basking in his newfound freedom. I'm not a conspiracy nut, just openminded enough to explore possibilites. If you look at the very limited coverage ofthe execution and burial you will find little evidence that proves Saddam was hanged. Remember all the body doubles he used as dictator? Don't be surprised if he turns up in a few years with Elvis, John Lennon, Jim Morrison, Howard Hughes and DB Cooper. Who knows, maybe he'll move in with Osama Bin Laden. Good day. ~MS Wardrip (Excerpt from his new book, "Beyond The Trap Door" - The Great Saddam's Hanging Illusion")
It was very telling that Saddam's executioners were praising Moktada (the Shiite cleric) while praying on the gallows. This is evidence that these men are loyal first and foremost to their ethnic group, and not to the Iraqi government. As another columnist recently pointed out, the problem with Iraq is that there is no Iraq. Saddam's death solves nothing.
if bush double downs in iraq and that fails to stop the violence that will say 2 things 1 that the american military lost 2 bush is a fool. bush will make the worst possible desicion just like the rest of his desicions. i know all the war pimps will say more troops but that is a proven failure.
Even if hanging was a mistake, it was a mistake the Iraqi people and their representatives made, not the President's and certainly not the American people. The only question that I have in the wake of this scene is what exatly does one have to do to warrant a death sentence and having the death sentence carried out?
Saddam is dead, what affect does this have on America? I for one will rejoice when Bin Laden is dead. Lets not forget who was responsible for the attack on the world trade center.


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