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Iranian Qods Force in Iraq: Treat them like al-Qaida

Posted: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:24 PM by Hardball

Recent media reports indicate that the Bush administration has given new instructions to American forces across the Middle East on how to deal with Iranian operatives.  No more catch and release – now the orders are to capture or kill them.  It’s about time.

Documents found on Iranians recently detained in Iraq show their involvement with groups responsible for attacks on American troops. These Iranians are members of the special operations wing of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps – the Qods Force.  The Qods (“Jerusalem”) Force has its roots in the 1982 deployment of the IRGC to Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley, where they assisted their Lebanese Shia brethren in the creation of Hezbollah. Hezbollah’s reputation as the most effective irregular military force in the world is a testament to the training capabilities of the Qods Force.

In Lebanon, the IRGC was directly involved in the planning and execution of numerous attacks on American interests in the region, including the 1983 attack on the Marine barracks at Beirut airport. They were also complicit in the kidnappings and murders of several American citizens, including CIA Beirut station chief William Buckley in 1984 and U.S. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Rich Higgins (serving with the United Nations) in 1989.  The Qods Force remains in Lebanon today, intimately involved in the funding, training and equipping of Hezbollah. Virtually all weapons used by Hezbollah in the 2006 war with Israel were supplied by the IRGC via Syria.

Members of the Qods Force were dispatched into southern Iraq in 1991 immediately following the withdrawal of American forces after they had evicted Iraqi forces from Kuwait in Operation Desert Storm. These IRGC personnel made contact with their fellow Shia Muslims and fomented the failed uprising against Saddam Hussein.

The Qods Force has also been involved in other Iranian special operations in Europe, Asia and Africa. For example, they provided weapons to fundamentalist Islamic groups in Algeria in the early 1990’s. In 1995, the Qods Force supplied weapons and personnel to Bosnia’s mostly Muslim army – in this case with tacit approval of the United States and its allies.  In the late 1990’s and until the American invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Qods Force supported the Afghan Northern Alliance in its operations against the Taliban. 

The IRGC Qods Force is a capable, committed organization with demonstrated operational capabilities on three continents. They have had American blood on their hands for over 20 years. The Qods Force is to the Shia militias as al-Qaida in Iraq is to the Sunni insurgent groups.  They should be dealt with the same way.

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So these guys helped foment the rebellion our President (Bush) asked for in 1991 and were working with the Northern Alliance to oust the Taliban? And now they are our enemies. Hmm ... What has changed?
Let me see if I understand the idea of the USA not using "the strength of brute or technological superiority." So, after literally thousands of people have been killed by terrorists in attacks (in embassy bombings and on civilians sitting in trains, restaurants, etc.) by the use of brute strength and technological superiority (example: cell phone bombs and IED's), it's the U.S. that must try to understand the ideological differences of the terrorists. Well, finally a more informed strategy has been adopted by the U.S. military. After extracting intell from captured QUD/Iranian personnel, treatment them as the enemy combatants that they are.
While I agree that the muslim Qods Force should be treated as enemy combatants (shot, hacked, captured, neutralized...) by making this an official policy may only lend some form of credibility to them and more importantly - their cause. This could ultimately strengthen their position. But, unfortunately, that's the sort of war we are in - and we need to win this - and that means taking off the kid gloves and playing hardball - whether the media and US public like it or not. I think also that the media needs to be controlled over there so as not to undermine US personnel and what they need to do to get the job done. War is never a pretty thing.
Americans soldiers are not paying attention....in iraq....The russians put forward.....wheels...on vehicles to deal with roadside bombs....Why don't the amercians use the same techniques rather than driving blindly over them,,,,,
time is running out on Bush.....and his party won't get re elected........The democrats......will.......expand the war in the middle east....into iran and syria......as they get bolder with their intervention into iraq,,,,and lebanon,,,,,and as Iran,,,,,,openly start making nukes....
when american home owners learn the technology of geothermal.......and when americans are able to convert their cars to fuel cell......hydrogen.....do it yourself knowledge.....because the auto industry won't because they are owned by the oil companies.....american politicans will feel free to use whatever force is necessary....in the middle east...
Spin on brother! This laundry list of atrocious behaviour attributed to these bad Iranians is interesting in itself. If these people have had American blood on their hands for 20 years, why has it not been dealt with sooner. Any schoolboy knows that we can "reach out and touch someone" anywhere in the world. Or has it suddenly stirred the terrible anger of supporters and spin doctors of the self appointed decision maker.
american corporations are the enemy within......they ship jobs to china,,,,,intel is an example....when they get nationalized,,,,,like chavez is doing in venzuala......they will learn....a lesson,,,,,and high tail it back........it's just a matter of time,,,,china will nationalize them.....in order to steal their technology,,,,,,when china,,,,gets what they want........
Being a Bush Hater will not make the bad guys go away! They have no demands and seek our total distruction, all of us:Black, white ,Jew ,Christian,Gay ,straight! I hear they take it easy on converts!Dems have no plans!
I am very glad that the Iranians now being found in Iraq will be captured or killed.. These people have been causung problems for a long time not only in Iraq but in Isreal, lebanon, and else where.. If we don't stop them now in Iraq and Afganistan, then PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY BETTER BE PREPARED TO FIGHT TERRIOST ON THEIR OWN BACK DOOR STEP..These people are destined to destroy the western world and take over total control and either kill or place all westerners under slavery.. WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO WHAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING.. I personally can't believe that the liberals of this country are so blind, and even a lot that aren't liberals..I believe strongly in my country and what we are doing to protect this country and to keep it free..I am sickened by the people that are not standing behind our President and this country and the war on terriosm..Belive me 911 was only a wake up call to this nation, and if we don't take the fight to them, then you WILL be fighting them here on your own BACK DOOR STEP. I believe that MOST americans have forgotten how we came about the freedom that we currently have and enjoy. Remember FREEDOM comes with a price, I understand that it is a harsh price, but remember what I said about those that want to destroy us..I am ex Militery and have fought in a war myself and I am hurt deeply by the comments from people about cutting and running.. We did that in vietnam and see what happened.. as soOn as we left even tho there was a treaty made the north immediatel;y moved in and killed tousands of people and took over the country. People are you wanting this to happen to the USA.. I know what Many of you are thinking, no no that can't hapPen, but I must say I believe it can and IT wilL if we don't protect our freedom NOW by fighting those that want to destroy us where they are, in their own country...I have only one other thing to say,, The people of this country beter PRAY that we win in Iraq and Afganistan.. Alos don't forget that our freedom didn't come over nite, and many died in the fight to gain the freedom we have NOW..
i'm amazed that people still snipe at Bush. I'm an independent voter, I voted for Bush and I believe that mistakes, misjudgments and a wide assortment of things happened, like in all wars before, that gave us less than the clean victory we had hoped for. The problem is that so many Americans do not realize that there hasn't been a war thats been clean and not fraught with problems and challenges.Critics say that Bush lied about WMD. How is that possible when most intelligence agencies agreed with the CIA that Iraq had them. I would ask how did he lie? In the entire scope of things it little matters except that some Americans refuse to think objectively and deal with the facts that we know. Get over it and lets move on. I was at ground zero and unless you stood there you can't understand the magnitude of what occurred. I was out of work for 27 months as my company collapsed. We need to pull together like we did then. Our very existence is at stake here. My father, who was a combat vet from WWII, often questioned our generation's resolve when it got tough. His retort was "i won't be here but I doubt you have the stomach for what we went through". God bless those killed already, but 3,000 dead - that was a good week in WWII when thousands died each day - 55 million over the course of the war. There really is a price for freedom. It looks like we are doing a number of things now including instituting actions to destabilize Iran's economy that might, along with the threat of force, make Iran back down. We have more than enough missiles to flatten every factory, oil field and pipeline there without losing a single soldier -completely destroying there economy and hopefully forcing a regime change. We need to come together again because each dissenting action emboldens the enemy - we all have the right to free speech but lets measure what we're saying to if its right for the time.
Look at the big picture the budget surpluse gone defens contractors getting rich are we stupid or what? all these propaganda is for oil greed and power do not cover it with freedom 9/11 terror...wake up and smell the stink of imperialisem and greed by corporations and those who whish to be able to control all the world by their free trade and free market economy so it would be free for riches to freely rape the rest of world and if they rise....TERRORIST they would be????? GOD save us .....
We have become; So Propagandized by the Dope Smoking, Pandering, Politically Correct, Left Wing Liberals and their Converts, we don't KNOW how to take casualties or conduct WAR... We're too worried about who's toes we're stepping on! Give Me a Couple of Divisions of the former "WAFFEN SS", with up to date Equipment, and The problem (in IRAQ) would be solved in a couple of Months!...
This is "WAR", to fight it as if it were a trip to the Bahamas is to invite disaster. General Sherman once said "War is Hell" as he marched through Georgia burning everything in his path. Once he moved on there was no resistance or CSA troops of any type in his rear. We all know how that turned out. If we are to go to war then let us fight it as total war not a side note on the evening news everyday. We must also silence the liberal wing in this country for they are selling us all down the river to one world government in which no one will have the right to criticize. I would reinstitute the draft, call up 5 million American Patriots, and send the unwavering message that we are coming to get them and to eradicate them with extreme prejudice. Only in this way will we change the environment of hate and murder for they only appreciate strength. Thank God we as a country did not fight WWII in this manner because if we had we would still be saying "Heil Hitler". God Bless America!
What is the USA going to do when innocent christians and jews are charged with the same thing in IRAN?The only answer the USA has in Iraq is MORE VIOLENCE and more killing of innocent people.
Stories like this mean nothing to the Lefties of this planet. I strongly suggest they look in to what Iran and their buddies say and do. Bush bashing is cute but it doesn't save any lives or end the problem.
WE NEED TO FIGHT A WAR LIKE A WAR-WHATEVER HAPPENED TO "YOUR EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US" HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET
Treating them like al Queada ??? That means Bush will divert resources & troops away from them..
Most of the so called "Iranians" in Iraq who are fighting are not even Iranians...they are palestinians or lebanese. only high ranking Iranian officals are in Iraq and they are behind the scenes...it is amsuing how many palestinians and lebanese want to fight for the mullahs in Iran.
When the Bush Admin. leaves office we're still facing the war in Iraq, and Iran. Who do we want running the helm.Maybe a lady who jumps on a chair and screems when she see's a mouse,or a young oreo cookie that has no idea how to fight a war, the gang wars are still going on in Chicago. And who will he pick for running mate, Jessie or Al. Think about it. I agree Bush need's to fight fire with fire. They ( Iran ) set this game up, so let's play by there rules. Put road side bomb's along their route from Iran to Iraq. Send remote controled car bomb's to their city. I know the myth busters would really enjoy to show you how. Put up "DEAD OR ALIVE" posters on the Iraq and Irans borders. Any Iranian crossing border will be shot. No question asked.Signed G.W.BUSH.
What have we become? Our country will not allow our troops to kill the enemy. There is an ACLU lawyer and a reporter from the Mean Stream Media behind every bush just waiting to attack an American trooper. We are doomed as a nation unless we pull our heads out of our butts soon.
When our troops meet them they should say, " Smile, as Allah is about to greet you and show you the way to Hell."
Treat this War like a damn "WAR"and stop trying to blame President Bush for everything. You don't have to agree with all that he does, but he won the election........so tough luck. Another thing I wish all of you bleeding hearts would get off of and that's not supporting our soldiers. I'm a Vet so I take it real personal. We are the most powerful nation in the world, and we didn't get there by whining we got there with Blood, Sweat, and Tears. And for some of you, if you haven't been there you don't have a damn thing to say. Nuke em and let God sort em out Fred Stradley Spokane Valley, Wa
I read this and pray to God what is becoming of this world.People who are civilized,Talking like savages.Go and kill any one who does not bow to us. Who gave you right to go and distroy other people's lives. For our self interest we would go and kill any one who does not agree or live to our will.Do you think it's just our right to go meddle in other people's lives and no other country can do the same. God gave you this rich country take care of people here and let other coutries live as they please. What if Russia or China start doing the same thing to America and support Canada in repressing Americans,Do you think people here would not object and do the same thing what Iran is supposedly doing. I wonder why these evil countries(Iran along with whole world) are not trying to destroy other democratic countries like Canada,France,Germany....because they don't try to impose their views on others.
well. first things first. those iranian units should be destroyed where ever we find them.second. the president should initate an all out, world wide, 120 day offensive, along with our allies. and in those 120 days, WE SHOULD DESTORY ALL, AND ANY TERRORISTS WHERE THEY ARE FOUND. IN THE AIR, ON THE SEA, ON THE LAND, UNDER THE SEA. also, with no mercy. no quarter, no sympathy.we should use everything in our power, up to and including nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, bio weapons. if we are to win, we need to play to win. how do you talk a terrorist down? you dont! you put one in his head and two in his chest, and call it a day.as for casualities, we need to just accept that we are going to have them. you cant fight a war, and not lose people.
My strong feeling about the events following Nine Eleven are simply that we should have eradicated those factions which are totalitarian and filled with hate. That part of the world is a cancer to our planet and should simply be destroyed. Instead of wasting years at war, the citizens in the middle east should have been given one choice, select democracy or die. Support america and stop hating, or die. I am usually gentle in my approach but when it comes to radicalists who only hate others and are determined to propogate that hate until they kill all of us, I am unforgiving.
OK OK, I too want to join the LIBS and close my eyes to the realities of the world. But that won't change the twisted goals of the very real threat we face as a nation targeted by terrorists. Political correctness has run array in that we couldn't allow our troops to kill Iranian special forces in Iraq until now. Ted Kennedy wants to give the poor terrorists a lawyer at Guantanamo. They're the same persons who would slit his throat or decapitate him in a split second if given the chance. But somehow, they deserve to be treated as if they're someone who deserves a welfare check. One thing is certain. "One only appreciates what one has earned". Since our freedoms were won by true patriots blood, our country has become a bunch of pendejos afraid to stare evil down when it shows it's nasty face. Maybe we should follow John Kerry's plan of giving Iran the nuclear fuel and see if they're honest in saying it's only for energy, not bombs. HMMMMMMM, are we that naive?? GOD help us all.
why have we not been attacked since 911 in this United States of America.Is homeland security that good or do the terrorists realize that an attack can and will only make us stronger ..........So maybe the terrorists are planning something really gigantic in order to cripple this nation.Probably something multible. Let's face it anyone could manufacture a bomb and place it wherever they wanted to who can stop it there's more than meets the eye here in the first place when this country get's hit hard working people who don't have anything to do with the problem lose all of thier stocks and bonds .Many people are suppressed here and homeless and poor and are just specimens for the system to use..
The moonbat lunacy I regularly read here is if anything, illustrative of WHY we no longer can enjoy a Constitutional government. How can we maintain a rational society when populated by folks that demonstrate such blatant idiocy as we can read here daily. These folks should spend a little time in a place and time wherte society is coming un-done. Perhaps then they could begin to garner a bit of "understanding". Or, the "refined" people of the "peaceful religion" can gleefully take their empty American heads off with a dull ginsu knlife for entertainment, or maybe equality, or religious freedom.
Iran did not suddenly become our enemy, remember the failed Iran hostage rescue attempt in 1980? They have been our enemy ever since. We have actually have HAD light engagements with them ever since. Go to goggle and search for "Operation Earnest Will" and "Operation Praying Mantis", just to name a couple of them. They have been directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of many americans (civilian and military) over the last 27 years? . Their training and supplying of insurgents in Iraq, is just Iranian goverment's latest continuation of their hostile policy toward us. They generally don't attack us directly (which would be insane), they tend to sponser and train irregular forces which attack us or our allies (for instance, Goggle: "Marine Barracks Beirut Lebanon 1983"). Still doubtful? Iranian Government Sponsored Terrorist Organizations: Lebanese Hizballah HAMAS Palestine Islamic Jihad Palestinian Rejectionist Groups Mujahedin-e-Khalq Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and Security Use Goggle or any other source to verify these....Now do you really believe we shouldn't target Iranian agents in Iraq?...Or that we are just "picking on" Iran? Look on a map of the middle east, what country is between Afghanistan and Iraq? Of course Iraq didn't really pose a major threat to the US. Our objective was/is to create democracies on both sizes of Iran, to eventually directly or indirectly democracize Iran. Iran was always the goal, not necessarily invading it, but one way or another to change it. The Iranian citizens would see the benefits it's new neighboring democracies are experincing and want those same freedoms themselves. Of course it's not turning out that way, and Iran is making sure it doesn't. The Iranian hardliners have ALOT to lose if we succeed. I'm sure quite a few middle eastern governments are threatened by the vision of democratic middle east.
Who's surprised? Thinking was declared verboten at the end of the 'Nam. That's when the officer corps was beginning to be purged of anyone that thought for themselves. Now the entire Army has been purged and it is a continuing effort.Why do ya think reefer is 'verboten' today? Does NO ONE remember the purges that happenned during the Clinton debacle? And WHY does that STILL SORE chronological LIAR McCaffery have the job of the "bug Czar".. Because he's practiced the LIES for thirty years, that's why. Thinking for one's SELF is one of the liabilities of SMOKING GOD'S CREATION. Today's Army doesn't think it can tolerate thinking troops. Only automatons. As for the rest of the moonbat left, why don't ya move to this paradise of right thinking muslims, so they can enjoy the act of taking your empty head off with a dull ginsu knife, SIMPLY BECAUSE YER AMERICAN! Try to LEARN to THINK, people!It's only forbidden thiose in uniform. Of course, you wouldn't wear a uniform, it would reveal your limp conformity. Draft the MOONBATS!
Clearly this Administration has put our troops in harms way by allowing this behavior to go on.If there is a country sending troops to help kill our soldiers,i say kill their troops.Beyond that,the sponsoring country is obviously looking for a fight and i say give it to them.I know all you liberals out there think that no war is justified,but most of you are people who got bullied and pushed around.You people would love nothing better than to keep us weak.There is a time and place for war and seeing that Iran is formenting all the unrest in the Middle East,i think it is high time that they get a dose of what can happen when meddling with my beloved USA.For all of you who want to talk with Iran and Syria(and worry about a draft),why don't you just move to France,because you obviously are ready to surrender your dignity and pride, but you cannot surrender mine.
we should fight like they do and not be so easy of a target. put are soldiers in 6-7- different camps protected by air and sea and protect the borders from incoming insergents,iranians, and the iraqi soldiers sould handel the promblems in the cities etc.this war on terror is not going away and we need to stay and win
Col., As long as those "leaders" in the Emerald City, posturing as democrats as well as those money-grubbers of ours in D.C., while "inexplicable" infiltrations occur at the gallows and official offices, I don't see any ally nor a valid government to protect. Any Iranian official activity within Iraq is a miscalculation giving that political miscreant in the White House more ammunition and bodies to waste in the sands of Mesopotamia. But then again, didn't the decider declare unofficial war against the Axis of Evil in 2002 to precipitate such actions? To presume we have the authority-military or moral, to engage this presence is to overlook the chaos our nation has unleashed for bogus reasons so to get Iran cornered between the two fronts in Afghanistan and Iraq. I see our presence in Iraq more like the visitation of Pike and his boys in the "Wild Bunch". As much as I revere that movie, it is the appropriate metaphor for the affects of the Neo-Con-Bush policy on the Iraq.. The advocates, supporters, and apologists mythologize their Foreign Policy as if it was akin to John Wayne coming in with the troops from Fort Apache to save the day. The reality is closer to Holden (Pike) and the boys getting a town shot-up to Hell in their FOILED ATTEMPT of aggrandizement. That's how the average Iraqi, who apporve to over 60% to having Americans killed, sees the consequence of our incursion to remove one dog-Saddam, but releasing the hounds of Hell upon them. Nearly 4 years into the war and we're finally getting around to providing security for the non-combatants who have been our wards ever since we deposed Saddam. But just like our own southwestern border, the Neo-Con-Bush policy never had the resources or the plan to control the Iraqi borders from the Guests Prince Georgie, the AWOL-One, invited with his "Bring'em On" speech. So while those back here are living in the delusion that we're the the guys in the white-hats coming to the rescue, the people of Iraq see the affects of our presence as akin to Pike and the boys making a "friendly" business trip to that poor South Texas town. For the sake of the Iraqi People and the safety of our Hostage-to-policy troops, we need to offer to the world community that a suitable REPLACEMENT force be mobilized to substitute for our troops who've become the tangible presence of the "Wild Bunch" policy of the Neo-Cons and Bush, and replace them with a credible force that COULD be the MATT DILLON for the GUN SMOKE of Baghdad and Anbahr province. Reduce the American presence to providing air transport and humanitarian logistical support for the Iraqi people through the Red Crescent/Red Cross or other NGO's.
This is a "war"? Padna, the 'War" was over three years ago. This is the ensuing occupation. Seems this politically correct non dope smoking "Army" can't even do that right. Of course, thinking was declared verboten at the end of the 'Nam, and the purges have gone on ever since, under the guise of "substance abuse". Bullshit. Thinking was and IS the only enemy the Army has.WE didn't have bulletproof vests. We didn't have near the gear these guys have, yet we kicked the hell out of "chuck" in every contact. But we were permitted to think for ourselves. That ended in '73. And that ass McCaffery is STILL mouthing one bald faced lie after another. What a sore loser.What a F%%&)#$g TYRANT. What an ASS. He ruined a great Army.It is now only a small mercenary force. And we all know about mercs.
Has anyone ever thought of the possibility that the U.S can lose this war big time in the minds of u.s. /world opinion. Militarily its very easy to inflict major (nearly complete destruction )casualties on a force of 100,000 plus soldiers hunkered down in an small area (Green Zone), particularly when the enemy is all around them. They seeem more like bait than a force.
Sounds to me like you've provided an excellent rationale that U.S. Troops should be redeployed to protect the borders and ensure the Iraqi issues stay Iraqi. It also would justify the need to try diplomatic efforts to try to get the countries you mentioned to ensure the aggatators stay in their countires rather than Iraq. The idea the U.S. troops are going to go door to door and stop this is idiotic (which is the politest term I can think of). Once we get one, there will be two to replace the one. We screwed up. We lost the focus on the real mission which was in Afganistan to go into what was clearly a personal vindetta and now can't get ourselves out. Bush hasn't heard a counterplan? Here it is, George: Redeploy to close the Iraq borders to outsiders, begin diplomacy with neighboring countries and divide Iraq so the three ethnic groups all have their own "states".
It's so easy to point out ones fault's as so many Americans are doing with the leaders of our country who are tring to fight a war were the enemy is often invisible How about we all pull together and work together as one instead of beating up our goverment put your ideas on the table and see if there may be a way we can win the war and still bring our brothers and sisters home sooner than later leaving iraq before our mission is complete is not the answer I asure you we do not want a repeat of sept 11 keep our enemies on their shores take the fight to them. TO ALL OF AMERICA REMEMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM AND TO WHOM OUR GOVERMENT STANDS FOR TOGETHER WE ARE ONE PLEASE DON'T FORGET GO BUSH
this is only a diplomatic move.isnt this obviouse Bush is looking for another war. why is this all important now
President Bush should have 100% support from the American people. We are at war and its time we woke up to that fact. There should be an immediate draft and the military should be strengthened by five million soldiers. Then let's take off the gloves and get to work. The current situation is worse than it was in 1938. America wake up. And Canada should wake up too. Three cheers for President Bush.
I have one question. What do we do about the SAUDI'S (Bush's friends) who are actively supporting the Sunni's in Iraq and at the very least indirectly responsible for the deaths of American Servicemen???
I pray to god that we win, the only way to deal with these terrorist is to be ruthless. Where are the Generals like Patton? Do we have anyone in our military that doesn't give a damn and just wants to win? We have to become the america that once was. when we went to war and won,when it din't matter what party you belong to. my fellow citizens make me sick. Sometimes I really do not want to be here anymore. The politicians and libs have really screwed this country up. If we keep it up, we'll be like France, that's frighting.
Get it? The stage is set, an all out war in the middle east created by none other than the good ole US of A. The majority of the Middle East will by the Sunni's, aligned with Al Queada, the the minority will be Iran, Iraq making up the Shia. Iran is only protecting its interest. They will face along with Iraq the complete and utter wrath of the whole middle east when the war of Sunni vs. Shitte spills over the borders of Iraq. The is a reason the Iran needs nuclear weopons and will pursue them at all costs. Protection. Get IT? Your leaders know nothing about the Middle East, its history or its people. They shouldn't be in Iraq. Saddam was in a much better position to run that country. We killed out last chance with his hanging, any hope of keeping the region stabilized. He, above all his evilness and stupidity, understood this concept with both insight and intelligence. We unleashed an evil we cannot contain. Americans are going to pay for our leaders stupidity for generations to come, along with many in the middle east and the rest of the world. Unfortunately, the war in Iraq, has barely begun. This war will destroy our economy, our people and our very way of life. We will not longer be the police state, the question is "Who Will?" Americans, wake up. Look at Russia and Mr. Puttin. Europeans are already getting a good look at who will have the most power and indeed we are not talking military. We are talking economical power. Russia has suddenly found itself in postion to control most of the worlds oil reserves and natural gas markets. He who holds key to economics, will hold the keys are well to polictical domination.
As long as I can remember, My dad god bless his sole. He was WWII navy vet. Joined after Peral in 41. Served 4 yrs and numerous campanes, he faught in the north atlantic, then the south pacific. During the 60's I would always remebered him saying "those Damn arabs there going make the sand into glass" and I would Say "what do you mean dad"? He'd say "hyroglifics son hyroglifics". Well he wasn't talking about bombs and bullets, he was talking about the big one. We let this thing go on and I'm afraid my old mans predictition is going to come true. I don't read the bible but they say it's all there. We let Iran get the bomb and we have no choice, those people want to live in the stone age, I say we put them there. Let the Liberals chew on that.
What were the Brits thinking when they let Sadr walk after Sistani{an Iranian} came back from London and made a deal with them? Did they learn something as a colonial power about dealing with a region that is fundamentally tribal? Sadr was on the ropes and going to take the count. Now, he and the Iranians are giving each other a local while our troops are further compromised with their role in this mess. We have a dry-drunk for a President that keeps uping the ante with a losing hand. Better yet, he's playing poker drunk while the Iranians are playing chess sipping tea. They are trading time for a better position. We may not be the preeminent power in 20 years, and our position argueably worse as the Iranians solidify their domination of the region. What will the consequences be if we don't defang Iran? Do we fight them now or fight them later? Can we make it so costly for the Iranians that they will give up trying to block the straights? We can weather a 40% reduction in oil flow better than most....now. What I would like to know is with some certainty is, can the West count on internal change within Iran to move it off of this desire to confront the Great Satan? The mullahs and Bush have a religious view of events unfolding that is scary. A perfect storm. Religiosity and ideology are going to get us further into this mess. God Bless Petraeus and our fine troops, I have confidence that if anybody can salvage Bush's miscalculations it will his leadership in Iraq for the time being. As for the future....the Navy, Air Force and Special Ops will fight Iran and the rest of America will hold on.
People are looking no further ahead than their next paycheck! All empires eventually fade. Our's is bound to. Iran was a power in ancient times and may well become a power again. The bi-polar world of east-west is done. We currently have one super power and a dozen pretenders. I predict a world balance will be restored eventually and our wars will again go cold. U.S. power and influence in the world will wane. How can it not? A tri or quad polar arrangement of world power will develop. A sort of balance will ensue. There will still be some friction points, but overall cooperation amoung nations in sharing reasources will prevail. Commerce is a human trait. If it is oil we need and it is oil they (Mid East) have, they will sell it. What else are they going to do with it? It doesn't matter if we buy from Shias or Sunni or Venesuelans. I wonder if someone has done the math on the cost of $5.00 gallon of gas for everyone vs. the cost of prolonged Billion dollar a day wars? I'd rather pay the $5.00 a gallon and keep my sons and daughters close to home with me to comfort me in my old age.
There is only two ways to win a war, and this is a war. Destroy the enemies will to fight or destroy his ability to fight. We have done none of this since WWII. Get the politicians out of things. They are only interested in their political future and don't give a damn about our troops on the ground. As long as they meet their political agenda, our troops will pay. Destroy the insurgents will and ability to fight. That is the only way to finish the job. I don't advocate mass murder. Just get the ones behind the funding and suppling weapons and I don't care who it is. The Iranians, Syrian, Saudi...whomever. Find the money, Find the resources, and blow the daylights out of em!!! Send them to allah, but somehow, someway get them, so our service members can come home.
Let our military run the War and keep politicians out of it! When will we learn from past mistakes. I think we need to look at our government and fix the problem before we loose our country. The Democrats and Republicans are not working to help our military. We are loosing the war because they are in touch with what is going on around us. Time For A Change!
"If we don't stop them now in Iraq and Afganistan, then PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY BETTER BE PREPARED TO FIGHT TERRIOST ON THEIR OWN BACK DOOR STEP ..." Just how would these people get here -- flown in by the US Air Force, or coming up through Mexico? What crap!
In the Bible, God told King David to kill every muslim, man, woman, and child, or they would forever be a thorn in their side. If it wasn't for juesu, we'd all be Jewish, so think a bit. The muslims sided with the nazis during WW II, and that's why the bloodshed in bosnia, and Serbia. But we saved their butts. Now iran will develope an atomic bomb, which they will test on Israel. The only active terrorists in the world today are muslims. their religon says convert them or kill them. This is not a people who listen to talk. BTW, add France to the list - they are selling the weapons to Al Q, Qod, and all the rest. The info on Qod is not from the Bush admin., it's from the Egyptians, lebanese, and turkish.


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