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2008 Race: The spring training preview

Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:11 PM by Hardball

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it’s time once again for our spring training preview of the various players warming up for the longest season of them all: the race for the White House, 2008.

This is a moment when some of the players are still trying to figure out which uniform to wear and what position suits them best: left field, right field, center, pitcher or catcher. It’s early but eagle-eyed scouts can sort of see who’ll be able to hit major league pitching and who won’t.

Let’s look at the roster.

Hillary Rodham ClintonHillary Clinton: Kind of a sequel in a satin pants suit. A canny veteran who got by for years with one pitch: the curve she learned from her long-time manager, the Hall-of-Fame husband whose career was stalled when he went on the disabled list in 1998 after he got caught stealing signs from an intern. But that’s ancient history and Hillary is now trying to make it to the biggest league of all on her own hook. Early line: could be over-coached and it’s increasingly easy to see the spin on her fast ball which is just average.

Barack ObamaBarack Obama: Rookie phenom who shot from A-ball to the majors in record time. Smooth fielder, capable of stealing signs from late, great pros like Jack and Bob Kennedy. A crowd-pleaser and box office draw who looks as if he can hit to all fields. Could have more stamina than aging veterans. Fans show up to watch him play out of curiosity, not out of habit.  Engenders envy from others who have been on the roster longer and think they deserve to make the team on entitlement instead of effort.

John EdwardsJohn Edwards: The guy has an assortment of pitches; throws everything from a knuckle curve to a split seam fast ball. He has shown up this spring acting like a rookie, someone on the outside looking in. In his initial appearances, he’s apologized to fans for whiffing on a fast ball the Bush-Cheney-Rove team threw past him in the ’03 Iraqui playoff game held in the U.S. Senate. Claims to care more about fans sitting in cheap bleacher seats than those in the front row. Could surprise in Iowa A-ball.

That’s the big three. There are others: the portly right-hander from New Mexico, Bill Richardson. The professional bench jockey from Delaware, Joe Biden and the slick utility player from the Nutmeg State, Chris Dodd. So far only their immediate families figure they have a shot.

Let’s take a peek at the other club.

Sen. John McCain meets constituents at the Women's National Republican Club in New YorkJohn McCain: Legendary, aging veteran who came close to big win in 2000 but lost after he got hit by a spit ball thrown by Bush. Could be he’s thrown too many innings. Often looks like he might be tiring but has the ability to lean on experience and clearly gets a rush from adoring crowds and writers. This is his last shot at the big time. Scouts seem to think and many fans agree that his best chance to go all the way might depend on game circumstances: if trouble is on the horizon, there’s nothing like an old pro to come in and stop the bleeding.

Rudy GiulianiRudy Giuliani: Enormous potential. His basic difficulty? He’s a lefty trying to throw right handed in order to please nutcases in the right field grandstand. Another obstacle? Rudy wants to be the manager, fill out the line-up card, run the game and not take advice from any coaches. A one-man band playing in a park where a lot of season ticket holders don’t like the tune he is singing. Crowd appeal? He is used to clutch situations and has a track record of being unafraid when behind in the count.

Mitt RomneyMitt Romney: Looks and acts like a major-leaguer but has so many different uniforms in his locker that it’s hard to figure out which he’ll wear on any given day. Appears to think that paying customers and scouts have amnesia and won’t remember back in the day when he talked like he played for another team. Capable of buying his way into the game. Early book: big hole in his swing and can’t handle inside fast balls thrown by media.

Bench strength for this club: pathetic. A bunch of hanger-ons, misfits and bust-outs; right-handers all, like Brownback, Tancredo and Hunter. No shot.

So, that’s a quick peek at spring training. It’s still quite awhile before inter-squad play begins on the road in places like Iowa, New Hampshire and California. Fasten your seat belts everybody. It’s a long season.

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This may be the league where the fans don't like switch hitters. McCain certainly seems to be fitting that mold (ala John Kerry), as does Romney. Now Rudy seem to be toying with batting from both sides and Clinton is causing trouble in the dugout. Finese doesn't work either. The fans just won't tolerate the drag bunt single or the chop to the opposite field. Only the player who stands upright in the batters box, plays well with others, and swings for the fence everytime will earns the support of the crowd.
Here's my handicapping of the race. Clinton - You'd think after dropping a few points in the Washington Post poll that her husband is smart enough to figure out that getting into a war with Barack is a losing bet. After reading more than 100 news stories about Hillary in the last week, it's about 90% negative. Hillary wins the nomination with a Rose Garden strategy, not an urban warfare strategy. Bill knows this. Obama - A friend in Austin related that Obama was exhausted at the rally on the shores of Town Lake. Bad sign. Exhaustion leads to a Howard Dean moment. Just ask Howard. Edwards - Something's missing. Sadly, most Americans don't care about poverty and even for those who do, like Edwards, they really don't know what do about it. Richardson - The real dark-horse, who could emerge as Hillary's main challenger. Proven campaigner and almost as smart as Bill Clinton. My money (at great odds) is on Richardson as the last man standing against Hillary. It will be a Clinton/Richardson ticket... Very formidable. On the Republican side: McCain - Toast. While he won't have a Howard Dean moment, he'll likely have a Stockdale moment (in the debzate with Gore and Quayle). McCain doesn't get past New Hampshire. Romney - In South Carolina, and much of the country, Republicans are going to have problems with a man who doesn't believe in eternal hell (LDS belief) and he's a man who flip-flops so much he makes Kerry look steady. Romney doesn't make it past New Hampsire. Gingrich - He'll get in late and secure enough votes on the right to weakly challenge Giuliani for the nomination in the February and March primaries/caucuses. Giuliani - Conservative Christians appear willing to overlook everything about Rudy. You even see this on conservative blogs. He'll be fortunate enough run in the primary to the center against fringe-candidate Gingrich and coast to the nomination. Giuliani picks Ridge or a Midwestern governor. But, then again, I could be wrong. http://www.solidpolitics.com
Hillary has no hidden pitches and is too robotic in her delivery. She can easily be hit. The fans have become frustrated with her tricks because they don't know if she is actually spitting on the ball or towards Bill who is coaching in the dugout and still getting all the attention. Obama hit a home run his first time at bat but the fans are waiting to see if this were a fluke or if he really has the skill to make it in the big leagues. They want to see another home run and will be sure to make it back from the concession stand before he comes to the plate again. John Edwards was promoted from bat boy last season to catcher but lost the promotion when his team came up short in the final game. He has asked to be promoted again but the fans are not sure they want to give him another try. McCain was caught betting against the Independents this season and placing all bets on a team from the Bush League. He will not be forgiven by the Independent fans and has blown his chance to make it into the straight talk hall of fame. Guiliani looks too much like a Yankee ball player and everyone hates the Yankees. Always a damn good team mind you with a great (and rowdy) history, and from a great city, but fans always seem to root aginst them if they make it to the finals. Romney is going to be benched shortly. His manager and the fans became quite upset when he kept trying to line up on both sides of the field during the Star Spangled Banner. He criss-crossed the field so much during our nation's song that fans became confused, forgetting the words like the previous speaker of the ...... This embarassed the fans and you don't embarass the American people, not more than once anyway. All the other players are sitting in the bull pen near the far end of the left field line and hoping that any of these six will throw-out their arm or get hit in the head by a line drive. Of course most of them know that if the ball reaches their faraway outpost and crosses over the wall (by another home run hit by Obama) the game is over.
Why would I take the advice of Hardball? Matthews twice had as a guest a financial consultant who displayed the treasonous mindset of the corporate elite and Wall Street. On Wednesday night's program, the same consultant was asked by Matthews about the impact of empowering the communist Chinese government, and the consultant responded that he cared more about the opinions of those communist Chinese leaders than the state of our economy. Matthews who claims he stopped being a democrat because he felt they were socialist didn't even blink. What is wrong with this picture? The candidates Matthews has endorsed in the past have sold our country out from under us, put us in severe debt of the communist Chinese and the UAE. Matthews sat mum when our ports were being sold to foreign nationals. He only squeaks when the story is so glaringly out there he has to. When will Matthews breathe some fire over the very real threat to our country at the hands of the Bush administration, who have been assisted by the John McCains as well as the Ted Kennedy's of the congress. When will Matthews realize that his politics of greed will destroy our once strong and proud nation.
First of all I like Barnicle. I also liked Capitol Gang and Crossfire, both replaced by CNN's Situation Room so CNN can better control the agenda and the news disseminated during these time slots. They were intriguing, balanced shows with liberals and conservatives debating America. Gone with the corporate wind. Back to Barnicle. Thanks for your insights and I'm a liberal southern Democrat dodging tornadoes today. There will be an enormous fight between liberal Vietnam veterans like myself and the Clinton Camp. Clinton won't get the nod. It will be either a combo platter with Obama and Edwards or maybe Richardson and Edwards. We're going to stop Hillary for rewarding murder and international oil theft. We have one Republican Party and we don't need a Democrat who brunches with Murdoch and picnics with McCain. I'm an Air Force veteran and chemically bombing defenseless women and children to steal oil for our bloodthirsty government's corporate sponsors is a war crime and America needs to get a grip. They signed the New Oil Law this week allowing Western Big Oil execs to sit on a council controlling oil contracts and development and thereby giving the corporate sponsors of this Iraqi gangbang the golden ring they cherished, Iraq's reserve and reconfiguring OPEC. It's just okey dokey to Hillary. I'm sorry we don't have a right to murder anyone for oil and she doesn't get it. The Right says we're nuts for wanting peace and not murdering folks for oil. Well, Obama and Richardson and Edwards get it and a combination of some of these guys will be offered on the Sanity Ticket in 2008. Peace. Bring them home. It's time for the Republican's "We don't need no volvo-driving, latte-sucking librul in no White House." 2004 was the first time any political party tried to interfere with an opponent's primary but then they're the first despicabale parasites to hide a tax break in a war appropriations bill while singing my anthem and calling themselves patriots. Republicans are pathetic parasites who raped 9-11 into invading a sovereign state and stealing its oil and don't ever forgive them for it.
Hooray for Mike Barnicle ..... and Bill Richardson, who speaks for and of the American people. The only competition he's got is Rudy Giuliani. Clinton and McCain are the Nationalists -- your personal freedom is because the Nation's government provides you the chance to be free. Obama and Romney are the Racial candidates -- your personal freedom is prompted by your bloodline. Edwards is an old-fashioned Builder -- and building a new society doesn't involve personal freedom, so it's a moot point. But for Richardson and Giuliani, God made you free ..... until you allow yourself to become unfree.
Bob-Pensacola: Have read several of your messages on Hardball's blogs. Like your style. Hope all is well in Pensacola.
I'm still hoping the Dems make a trade for the big veteran slugger from Tennessee, Al Gore. After all, he already carried his team to a world series win in 2000, only to have the umps steal it on a bad call when the GOP pulled the hidden ball(chad) trick. I think he can still pitch, field and hit better than the others, and he looks more relaxed in his abilities now. Like most wily vets, he can coast through spring training and turn it up when the season actually starts.
There are so many want-to-be presidents running for 2008, I have no idea who will win and why.It seems that whoever has the largest amount of money to spend, has the best chance.Several may drop out for that reason alone, but the American people need to elect someone who will put our needs before defense spending and trying to control the whole world.I say elect someone who puts the interests and needs of the American people first asformer presidents have done and succeeded in our past. God bless America!!
With the exception of Obama and perhaps Edwards all I see is old time politicians with lots of political baggage. Hilary and McCain are power hungry flip floppers that would sell their soul to get elected. They are pro war crimes from day one and seem to think we can "win". Now Guiliani is a real dud but so far the idiots on the Christian right seem to like him. When they find out that he is a fraud that caused many of the problems on 9/11 they will hopefully dump him.
Excepting Gore who still may be a wildcard, we are looking at five candidates who have a shot. The first three primaries/caucuses for both parties are Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. In Iowa, Clinton and Edwards look tied. Obama will need to win New Hampshire where he is currently second to Clinton. Clinton and Edwards are in dead heat in South Carolina. For the Dems, primary season for all intents and purposes ends on Feb. 5 with primaries in 19 states including California, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey and Tennessee. In these 19 states overall, Clinton runs first, Obama second, and Edwards third. Conclusion for the Dems - Obama needs to have a strong 3rd in Iowa, win New Hampshire and run a strong second in South Carolina to make it to Feb 5. Edwards must win Iowa, and do very well in New Hampshire and South Carolina to be competitive on Feb. 5. If Clinton emerges from the first three primaries ahead, it is all over --- she will win Feb. 5 with 50% of the vote. For the Reps, McCain and and Giuliani are running even in Iowa and New Hampshire; McCain is running ahead in South Carolina. Look for dead heat going into Feb. 5. Republican primary schedule is not set as some major states like Florida and Michigan are up in the air. Nationally Giuliani is polling better than McCain and he is considerably ahead of McCain in California, which is definitely Feb. 5. McCain needs to pick up steam in most Feb. 5 states to have the race remain competitive after the Feb. 5 primaries. Right now, it is Clinton vs. Giuliani.
I believe that Al Gore is going to be a player in this race by September as does the GOP due to the fact that they are attacking him already.Gore has established himself as honest and credible in the fight against global warming and the fact that he has been against the war from the start.
I believe that Al Gore is going to be a player in this race by September as does the GOP due to the fact that they are attacking him already.Gore has established himself as honest and credible in the fight against global warming and the fact that he has been against the war from the start.
OBAMA- LIKE RIZZUTTO, BUNT'S SINGLES TO GET ON HILLERY-LIKE BABE RUTH, POINTS, HITS HOME RUN EDWARDS-LIKE YOGI, NOT OVER TILL ITS OVER
I would like to know WHY isn't anyone questioning the ability of Rudy Giuliani to be President. New York City isn't the Nation, what has he done that would make him so qualified? I understand 911, and rising to the occassion, but you could argue that point about the War Criminal we now call Mr. President.
Hilliary?? I don't think so and Obama, sounds too much like Usama. Mcain is the answer.
C Cran: Rising to the occasion? Just how did Guilani rise to the 911 occasion. I saw firemen and policeman and construction crews and doctors and private citizens rise to the occasion. I saw Guilani's face on TV saying we need to rise to the occasion, but other than that where does this "rose to the occasion" come from that Guilani seems to have been credited with.
why do you focus on Bill Clinton's sex life when Guiliani has a far worse record of infidelity and his is the candidate
Obama is stepping up to the plate big time. He's the best hitter in the majors right now, sold out crowds everywhere he plays. He's hitting home runs while everyone else is striking out, inning by inning.
Why is everybody on looking at the Dem's and Republicans for a President. There are other Third Parties out there, i.e. Libertarians, Constitution Party, that will be fielding Presidential hopefulls. You have all been brain washed...you don't even know about other parties. You need to vote for someone that will represent you, not the party they are running with. I would have to say that all Dem's and Republicans no longer work for the people, they work for the party that got them elected. Look into the other parties, you will find very qualified people that truly want to change America for the better, not to further a specific agenda like our current regime is doing.
Gore is certainly considering it. For God's sake we're following Bush but look at what they did to Kerry. Look at what they did to Doctor Dean. Matthews ran the tape of Dean scraming incessantly for days on end while he and his panel giggled about it. Months later, Matthews was still running it, giggling but beginning to say maybe I shouldn't be slitting Howard's throat every day becuase I'm as deep as a cup saucer. Slitting a person's throat publicly for no cost to the Republican Party just like Matthews repeatedly interviewing the Swift Inbred Hicks or a slobbering Hitchens trying to sit upright while justifying bombing defenseless Iraq for the safety of humanity as we know it. Maybe Christopher could interview some of the super duper, rich Big Oil boys who just got the New Oil Law passed in Iraq effectively giving the American corporate sponsors of the Iraq War control of the reserve and reconfiguring OPEC for Jesus of course the American Way! How about it Matthews, invite several of the candidates to a college, a smart one, and then invite some of the Big Oil boys who attended the super duper secret Energy Task Force meeting and planned the invasion and privatization of Iraq's oil. Why not? What are you afraid of disclosing. The obvious! Call Peter Carroll, the former CEO of Shell. Reporter Greg Palast reported he was there. Call him Christopher and see if you actually could do your job since you love to gather accollades, not unlike rose petals, for aiding the Libby investigation. Just a thought! We'd sure like to meet the Big Oil execs who got the New Oil Law passed. Truly.
Bill Clinton was impeached (on paper)for doing an intern, hiding it and then lying about it. His wife was hurt emotionally as was his daughter and perhaps the intern. Clinton suffered loss of trust and integrity with this country. George Bush and his cronies got us into a war we can't possibly win, lied about why we went there, and has hid behind rhetoric ever since. Over 3000 Americans have been hurt by this physically and emotionally (not to mention their families) as well as thousands of Iraqis, and this country is on an the verge of an emotional break down. WHICH IS WORSE! Why has George Bush not been impeached for this. I'm tired of hearing over and over and over again about Clinton's carousing in office, when we have a President now who has far exceeded Clinton in violating this country's trust and stability. If the people in this country place more emphasis, blame and greater consequences on Clinton for his errors in office than those of George Bush, this nation is in very sad shape indeed. Obviously, it is worse to cheat on your wife and lie about it then it is to get us into a war and lie about it.
As a social liberterain, naturally, I'll support the Democratic candiate, as Republicans (doesn't matter who it is) are too pre-occupied with telling everyone how to live their lives & preaching morals & values garbage, all the while being the biggest hypocrites on earth...
It's early, I can dream. I believe a Gore/Richardson ticket will return this country to respect. Both are grownups, with experience. Hillary, she makes more enemies as she goes. She waffles on War vote apology and lambasts Obama for a supporter's words. Appears to want it so badly that she can't think straight, has a passle of advisers so that no clear voice is heard. McCain sold his soul to the Bush brigade. I believe that Karl Rove told McCain he'd back him for prez if he lock-stepped on the war front. McCain believes Rove can get him elected like he did Bush. Wrong. Giulani. Sure, he's fun, and smart and as a prosecutor was terrific, pit bull after Mafia. But no way can he behave himself for 18 months, and his personal baggage, oy vey. Edwards. I really want to like him, looks good, terrific wife, great personal story, but somehow he's not quite firing on all cylinders. He may be left standing after all the others batter themselves silly, but by now he should be a tad better off. Sorry I couldn't do baseball analogies but to compete with Barnicle in that arena is foolish to even try.
My choice in the field---Edwards who is intelligent, calm, articulate, but I like Al Gore, too, if he runs. Gore early on warned of the stupidity of an Iraq invasion and the undermining of our efforts in Afghanistan. The war mongers called him crazy, but the situation in Iraq speaks for tself...Afghanistan, also. He is equated with environmentalism but he is not a one-issue man.
When rules are broken there are consequences! Acording to my study Saddam's Army fired anti-aircraft missles at our Airforce. Does everybody forget that is an act of war, and Mr. Clinton what did he do sit at Impeachment hearings and fire a couple of salvos at Baghdad. Wake up people !!!
Great pre-season analysis by Barnicle. Unfortunately, like the players in contention, a year or more too soon as the stands will remain empty until 2008. Tom Mirabile, Norfolk, MA
batting first for the dems alllllllllllllllll gore then coming in second on a vp statis barrrrrrrrrick obama, batting next thhe sec. of state john edward & batting last but hopefully yurrrrrrrrr outa her lady hillirary clinton, for the reps. mickey mouse mccain & all the rest are sleeping on the bench wake up & play hard ball people, the republins are a bunch of wiffers like that so called president we have joe / st john indiana
I would like to see a Political race competition not be so politically correct. Always having to try to sway one side or another with lies. Let's have a clean race. New thinking. I like Obama. He is new. Hilary is good too. Alot of experience. Pero alot of baggage. Too much cover-up
While we waste precious airtime with this american idol like nomination speculation,the horrible scandal at Walter Reed hardly gets noticed.Where's the outrage? Why were private contracts given to Ex Haliburton executives to run this facility? Is "support the troops" only a convenient slogan?Let,s really play hardball & dig out this story.
Polly G. The over-reach to be politically correct has its roots in four parties. The first being those special interest groups who cry wolf everytime someone makes an honest comment with no intentions of harming anyone. Second, the politicians who fear losing the support of every interest group in this country and therefore try to please everyone (and have to lie to do so). Third, the base of the political parties who threaten to abandon their presidential candidates if they do not toe the line with the party's platform, and fourth, the judicial system who pass down judgments for every tom-dick-and-harry who have a complaint that their rights have been trampled on. If you look at each of these examples carefully you will note that they represent the extreme right or left of the American people. So in effect, this country is being run by those other than the majority in the middle. Perhaps we need to start our own demands of correctness. That we in the middle, the majority, annouce that we are not going to take it anymore. That we will be offended every time someone is caught trying to be politically correct.
Gore/Richardson ticket? Inspired thinking! Obama has little experience, Hillary is too polarizing for the Democratic party to fully embrace. As far as the Republicans go, whoever goes after this will have a pretty formidable role to bring some integrity back into the RNC. It'll be hard to get people (other than the far-right base) to trust them again.
This is going to be the hottest election cycle ever. When the dust settles, Richardson will rise to the top for the Dems and Romney or Gingrich for the Reps.
Newt Gingrich! Yeah, have the republicans' put him up for election Jeff. The democrats will then be sure to win no matter who they run.
Having access to untold data touching on this is outstanding.


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