Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Gene Willard, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:32:06 GMT

Colonel Francona is absolutely correct here in his assessment that the non-binding resolution he's referring to is a cowardly act. It is also a waste of time and money. The Congress needs to get back to the people's business; that's why they were elected.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

johanna huft roseburg oregon — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:13:36 GMT

Not only was it a waste of time,and a complete moral crusher. It shows exactly what the dems. are willing to do to make something thats bad even worse...this is all political posturing,done at the exspense of our troops. They knew that the non binding resolution was nothing more than a waste of time.although..you would think by the way they celebrated that they really did something...and we want these people running the country????only if we want a pretty picture held in front of us,while in the real world s*** hits the fan....no thank you.if they were really doing what the people wanted,they would be doing something insted of wasting our time...at least when the pres. decides something he sticks to it. He finishes what he starts...to what end remains to be seen.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

JPat — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:20:50 GMT

What else does congress do? They all seemed to be stating what they believe. Some wonderful comments were made on both sides. If you think that was bad just take a trip to Walter Reed. Now there is a place where our troops have no armor against the FEDS, and the SUPPORT is waning.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Les, Washington DC — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:50:36 GMT

Kind of like the Republican push amend the Constitution banning same-sex marriage? Waste of money and time on a bill that had no hope of passing from the start.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

cy wagner, Oxford, Alabama — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:03:52 GMT

This is a political JOKE. Congress needs to work on something of merit and not politics. Stop throwing tomato's at the President he made a mistake and admitted it. Pelosi and the Dems need to move on to other business like health care, jobs, economy,etc. The 100 days is a joke. We as people need to have a revote and put people in that will work instead of run their mouth and throw rocks at the past. None have suggested a solution other than the cut and run Vietnam idea. That is wrong hit scare the hell out of them and they will back off. Same problem as crime as long as the hanging stops the killing goes on it is time for some good ole fashion grit and guts. Stop pointing fingers and spreading trash-do someting or shut up and get out of the way.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Gary M. Busse — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:10:00 GMT

When speaking of what is cowardly; does it get any more so than attacking the messenger? The voters of this country have spoken weather conservatives and supporters of this failed policy like it or not. The only people hurting the morale of our troops are the leaders of this attempt to defy the wishes of our citizenry.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Steven R. Stackpole,Austin TX. — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:12:09 GMT

If I wanted to be a socialist I'd move back to England,and take Billyboy and Hillary with me on my dime.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Patrick Conboy, DeKalb, Illinois — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:21:14 GMT

The resolution was worthwhile. It clearly sent a message to the White House that it needs a meaningful change of direction. To argue that anything less than blind loyalty to a failed policy is not good for the troops is tragic.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Peter Dorfman — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:22:08 GMT

The non-binding resolution was the kind of initial step that is feasible in the current political climate. What was cowardly was the inability of the Iraq War's critics to stand up and say the troops are doing a creditable job on the ground, but their mission is immoral, unwinnable and should never have been undertaken. When Republicans insisted that "support the troops but not their mission" was a contradiction, Democrats needed to refute this partisan doublespeak, but they didn't. Today's CNN report of a resurgence of al Qaeda in Pakistan underscores the foolishness of the Iraq adventure. When Republicans insist on a vote putting legislators on the record as to who will support limiting funds for expanded deployments in Iraq, the courageous will stand up and declare their intentions to do just that.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Paul H. Black Diamond, WA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:24:27 GMT

I always find it amazing that those who profess the grandeur of American democracy and the need to export it to foreign lands and distant cultures are the first to castigate those who exercise their right to dissent. Muffling the voice of dissent in times of conflict is to truly abandon the strength of democracy and is cowardice in its own right. Going along to get along, choosing silence over a needed objection, being cowed by the thunderous cacophony of those who would swear blind fealty or yielding to those who employ ridicule over rhetoric, these are the bane to democracy. It is the dissenter that challenges our assumptions, questions are motives, and rebukes our actions that causes us to constantly reevalutate or position, our course and our goal. It is the dissenter who aids us in reaffirming our commitment our causes us to choose a more productive path. If our troops do not understand this, they really don't know what there are fighting for.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Phil Lomason, Conover, Ohio — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:26:22 GMT

It was wrong to go there. It is wrong to stay there. The surge in troops will do no more than to provide a holiday for insurgents to regroup. When and if we ever decide to pull our troops out will be sending a signal to insurgents. Why not now rather than later. Why make 3100 increase to 6200. It might be better to wait until we have a Democratic president who will not bungle the pull out, But the cost of waiting will be too many lives. Stop trying to make the Democratic party the bad guy in all of this. Just bite the bullet and get them out.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

hollywood 2007 — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:28:50 GMT

Francona you have been right on anything yet, when should we start to take you as the absolute truth, how the solders feel, Col. North, much more of an authority on Iraq, then you are, claims otherwise, about no ending war policy that the troops face,as a military man should you not be more concerned about the equiptment they don't have, then spouting neo- con talking points. I always thought that it was about the troops, it the same old tried politics, and the spin master like you that that got into the war, no questions asked.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

rick rodriguez, corpus christi, TX — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:33:48 GMT

this manipulative and flawed article is paternalistic and condescending. it's offensive in the context of our democracy. it obviously and arrogantly presumes that our military personnel are incapable of independent thought and deliberation. not so, sir! the obvious purpose of the resolution is a wake-up call for 43. it's called leaving the back door open folks! a majority of the congress does not support escalation of the violence in iraq. the congress reflects the voice of the american people who overwhelmingly disapprove of this misadventure. our congress is doing its job. no cowards here. Our military has already won the war. what we need now is a functional diplomatic corps to work out a solution which includes all regional powers and interests. the recommendations of the ISG are still there. they should be put to use and do what is right for America.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Brenda Johnson Kodak, TN — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:37:27 GMT

All the politicians in Washington are Cowards, the American people spoke but not one listened. Esp. that President, who is spoiled and wants everything to be his way. It is so sad for all the men and women and their families that are fighting a war that they cannot win.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Terry Evers, Springdale, Arkansas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:42:39 GMT

Congress is now in the control of the 1960s antiwar crowd. They got Congress to cut and run then and are going to try to do the same cowardly thing now. Let's reinstitute the draft long enough to draft them, put Kerry in charge and ship them to Iraq where they belong.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John Underwood — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:42:57 GMT

This is a "pay now or pay later" situationa. Centuries of Islamic will to dominate the world should teach us something, but Americans appear to suffer from ADD. If we leave Iraq, we will see the war come to us as the nation states Iran and Syria grow their influence in the Middle East and bring to fruition their spiritual journey. Their "jihad" is, as their daily prayers confirm, is ALL about death to the Americans and Israel. They celebrate their own deaths AND ours in this struggle for an Islamic world state. THIS is and evil we've not seen since Hitler's nazi movement. We did not seek this struggle, but, sadly, we have no choice but to accomodate their willingness to die. Cut 'n run won't work. Full-on engagement will... to include Iran and other states bent on Islamic domination of the world.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Scott Tepper, Malibu, CA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:47:12 GMT

I disagree. It's exactly what the people of this country -- who run it, not the military, not the President -- wanted. Sending a message to the incompetent and ill advised Commander in Cief is all Congress can do at this point. For better or worse, the Pesident elected by one Supreme Court vote is the Cmmander in Cief. But as he continues to stumble and bumble his way to historic infamy, we can send him, and the real President, a message. While the real President doesn't listen to much from the people, at least Cheney fired Rummy after the election, even though nominal President Bush was still expressing his "confidence" for Rummy's incredibly inept policies. While the military may not give a dump about how the U.S. is viewed in the world, to many of us it means a lot. Those of us who want the U.S. to become the beacon of freedom again applaud what the house did. To those in the administration and the military, like you Col. Francona, who think we can simply impose our form of democracy on another country - and a country in the middle of a virulent civil war - I have just two words: Viet Nam.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

ram ahuja, atlanta, ga — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:53:19 GMT

In that case I am waiting for a sane military man to protest from being deployed in a combat zone because this war is not a war of freedom, as it is being touted. It was a war for the oil companies. I do not support any kind of politicians, they can be democrats or republicans it does not matter, they will not stop at anything, for them 3000 lives lost or another 5000 lives is nothing as long as then can keep their job. if only the people of this country stop supporting their political parties based on some flimsy idealogies.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

J.A.Gonzales — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:54:04 GMT

I moved to America (U.S.A.) the land of opportunity, if I had known, it will become the Land of Opportunist, I might have staid in France, those Senators should move overthere, they will fit right in with Chirac...

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John L Knoxville TN — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:56:04 GMT

Yes, the proposed bill had no teeth, no moral strength and no effect at all. However, this 'WAR" has had all of the above . . . all negative for the people of this country as well as the rest of the world. A morons' war led by a group of evil doers.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Tom Collins, Houston, TX — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:56:21 GMT

The only way to support the troops is to bring them home; we need them for the war on terrorism, which isn't in Iraq.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Luis Marti, Plantation, Florida — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:00:38 GMT

If you don't wish to hurt the morale of the soldier in warfare, you should have elected a president that understood warfare and its consequences. This was a no-win situation from day one. Hey, Osama was in Afghanistan, buddy, not Iraq! G.W. lied and now he hides behind people like Lt. Col. Rick Francona, and others, that support his "Surge/Escalation." That IS what he is doing, folks. Just like in Vietnam. Escalation! Learn the word. Do what you want, pal, but I ain't sending my kids to fight the Bush war. Send your own kids, dear congressmen. What really ticks me off is that these spin doctors are trying to make us feel guilty by saying if we don't support the war, we are destroying the troop's morale. And guess what, this stuff works on people. So, wave the flag, sing the national anthem, ship off 30,000 more to Iraq, and then get the draft going, and then moan the death of another 58,000 Americans. Ignore the fact that - as happened in Vietnam whereby 2 - 3 million Vietnamese died - perhaps another 2 to 3 million new victims will be led to the slaughter. Only herein lies a caveat: Beware of further meddling in things you have no control over. This isn't Vietnam, and these folks are being poralized by our actions. WE are creating Muslim extremists from our own course of actions. The Ayatollahs in Iran took power because of us. WE destroyed democracy in the early 1950's in Iran when the CIA took out Mosadeqh, the elected Prime Minister of Iran and placed "our boy" Shah Reza Pahlavi. Since then, our meddling has only incited the extremists in the Middle East. Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq. Saddam would NOT accept these lunatics. They are contrary to his rule. But we meddled, took out Saddam, and NOW, BECAUSE OF US, Al-Qaeda IS TODAY IN IRAQ. Congratulations, G.W. You got your wish. Perpetual War to feed the Military Industrial Machine.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

W.H., Richmond, VA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:03:29 GMT

This war is being fought by brave and dedicated American men and women. When the American people cut and run, it leaves our dedicated troops squarely in harms way and there (Iraq and Afghanistan)and demoralized. The terrorists believe we are cowards. Are we? You may not care what they think...but they will act on this..they already are. They will undermine us any way they can. They will hold out until we cry uncle. Peace at any price is not peace at all. Freedom is costly. Freedom requires more than cheap talk and platitudes. It requires determined, unyielding focus. By the way, take a look at the background as you watch the news...this is what America will look like if we decide to fold our tents and steal away. The enemy will come looking for us...remember 9-11? Hatred is a terrible thing. Its' motive is to completely utterly destroy. Does no one listen to the words spoken against us? Do we feel they are simply exhibiting temper tantrums? We will fight this war whether the politicians pass a vote or they don't. This is real life...not a movie. I believe those in office care more about who is on the mountain more than they care about our freedom, national security, or the troops they so hypocritically "defend". Much is involved in these present circumstances, it is too vital for each of us as free citizens. We did not make the aggressive move...but we must aggressively defend ourselves and our men and women in the fight.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Joanne, Durango, CO — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:12:00 GMT

The President is the coward. He is hiding behind his family's and party's ability to buy support. Don't you feel coopted when you say such dumb thingsabout cowardice? We are not the police of the world. WE DO NOT NEED TO FIGHT IN SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY TO PROVE WE ARE RIGHT. It is a waste of money to be out of our country fighting for nothing. If you have to wrap an act of agression in the flag YOU are the coward. Our country does not need agressive war mongers pimping for democracy.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Eric, Buffalo, NY — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:23:22 GMT

The Majority of the voters have spoken... We want our elected officials to get us out of a sectarian war in Iraq and spend our time fixing our own problems (economy, health care, oil-dependency, etc). I am tired of the US trying to fix everybody's problems around the world. It is time to fix our own. The sooner we get out of Iraq, the sooner we can get on with a domestic agenda. This is what the majority wants...

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dave H, Lemoore, Ca. — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:26:54 GMT

Moral crusher? I really wish people would stop thinking of our young people in the military as overly impressionable adolescents.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Frank — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:32:51 GMT

Iraq is simply a war crime and the only ones going to jail are the poor guys and girls who have to provide for there families. They didn't start this mess,there aren't a lot of jobs out there,where else are they going to go beside military? So much for the all volunteery force, they don't have too many choices. No matter what, the flood gates were opened when Bush,Cheney and Powell all sealed our fate with there lies. People that would never have thought of attacking America are now in the tens of thousands and growing,and all we ever here are the DEMS and REPUBS shift blame playing childish games with our lives. What we need to do is get rid of all the bums, they only care about some stupid party,that's the problem. One thing for sure this really shows us that anyone can do the jobs they're not doing. All you need is money and the right connections.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dexter Smith, Friendswood, TX — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:34:04 GMT

I am tired of the conservative media attacking the will and desire of the American people. Conservatives have decided to attempt to forcibly shape public opinion and not reflect the desires of the people. This is another example of the President and his gang using fear and intimidation to promote their personal agenda. Disillusioned Republican

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Stephen Cherney, Sarasota, Florida — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:39:33 GMT

There's nothing cowardly about our newly elected congress majority telling the president that the people of this country no longer want our sons, daughters, mothers and fathers dying and getting maimed so that George, Dick and their big business and ideologue buddies can get rich. They sit back in their offices and conference rooms and make decisions that kill and destroy life’s, villages and countries. And by the way, hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children have died and are dying so Bush and his Organization can spread capitalism around the world. Who is the coward now? The Lord's Judgment Day will come and those that have caused pain and suffering will be rewarded in-kind.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

C. David, Cincinnati, OH — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:41:58 GMT

I'm curious...Congress-critters fiddle with this non-binding resolution, and yet the men and women of the Armed Forces in Iraq are dealing with the civil war, lack of proper equipment, and no-end-in-sight conflict caused by this administration's poor choices..so who are the actual cowards, and why? I'd like to be naive enough to believe this is a first step towards getting out of Iraq for good, but I believe I'll be an old man on my deathbed in 60 years still hearing about our involvement there. Since I'm not planning on ever running for POTUS, I can say it...the lives of our armed forces in the field have been wasted in a pointless conflict. We wouldn't have to choose between supporting the war, or our troops, or worrying about what the bad guys may or may not do, if we hadn't let the Shrub Administration get us into it in the first place. Sadly enough, the easy & cheap shot since 9/11 has been to call into question someone's patriotism if they dare object. When someone can explain to me logically, succintly, and with credible data to back them up, why we should stay, and that there is/was a point to the suffering veterans are now facing (read the Washington Post articles on Walter Reed for example), then I'll believe this Republican horse-hockey nonsense. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII, and my own father was ROTC at Kent State in May 1970...I'm familiar with what war does to our country. Just because one is against this "police action" doesn't mean one is for the other side, or wants even 1 more member of our armed forced killed, maimed, or put in harm's way FOR NO GOOD REASON other than "they tried to kill my daddy", "blood-for-oil", or a Haliburton fundraiser. Stop murdering our troops, and bring them home!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

David Cochran, Fort Worth, Texas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:44:21 GMT

So far Bush has managed to make a real mess in Iraq and millions of new enemies for the United States to deal with. Sending more troops only adds another log to the fire and makes matters worse. Congress needs to stop funding the war and bring all of the troops home now before anymore lives are wasted.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

TERRY GROTE,OKLAHOMA CITY,OKLAHOMA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:44:51 GMT

COWARD, The politicians would have to be upgraded for this high rank.CYA,let the people suffer for lack of representation and the fact the big buck politicians did NOT do the job they were elected to do.Now THE SLEEZE is trying to do damage control because of the almighty $$$$, and control of the little guy.GUTLESS!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Ray North Carolina — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:46:06 GMT

While all of this "non-binding" stuff was going on, Congress completely shirked their responsibilty to pass a budget for every federal agency (except Defense and Homeland Security) by passing a continuing resolution that lasts for the rest of the fiscal year. Where was the media outrage about that? I agree with Cy - let's get people back in Congress who want to do the business of the United States and not posture for the 2008 election.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John Armintrout, Leonard, Texas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:57:00 GMT

I agree with Col. Francona that this resolution does nothing to help the troops that our politicians claim to support. If those politicians believe they are right and that we shouldn't be in Iraq then they should cut off all funding for the war immediately and force the administration to pull the troops out. That would show the courage of their convictions. A non-binding resolution does nothing but show that they are more worried about reelection than they are about our troops in harms way.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Vic Herrera, Oceanside, CA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:07:32 GMT

Non-binding resolution a cowardly act? It doesn't support the troops? I'm tired of hearing this B.S. If the Republicans were in control there wouldn't even be a "discussion" and business would be as usual -- lock step with Bush. Let's do whatever our president tells us to do because he obviously knows what he's talking about. The fact that we're even talking about it is a good thing. Discussing a serious matter such as this is a good thing. Letting the world know that we're not ditto heads is a good thing. One of the main premises that has made America great is the fact that it's ok to disagree with someone else and it's ok to bring it up for discussion. So what if the terrorists think we're weak because we're arguing about it. Let them believe it. We know our strengths. Discussion is a good thing for democracy. Perhaps they'll learn something from it. It's too bad we didn't have it prior to invading Iraq.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Mike, Elkins, Arkansas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:09:14 GMT

Hawks and lifers all seem to throw up this kind of rhetoric. Hawks and lifers don't seem to die in war, and they seem to benefit for these wars. I have learned a lot from being in the VN war. We would still be in Viet Nam, if these hawks continued to have their way. How do you stop them? You have to ask yourself a few questions. Were we of any success in VN (Viet Nam)? How is VN today? Is VN still our enemy? How have these hawks and lifers treated VN veterans? Are VN veterans being ignored? What about the people who really fought these war, not hawks and lifers, where are they today? Did these Veterans votes, humble the hawks and lifers, in our last election? What benefits do our real warriors get, other than lip service, from the hawks, lifers, Congress and the people? These HACKS, will not even give the proper medical follow-up for our wounded warriors...see veterans suicide and Walter Reed hospital just to name a couple of the elements these guys wish would go away. If these HAWKS want to support the troops, then why don't they support the warrior when the war is over for the warrior?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Bob Ryan, Norfolk, VA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:13:09 GMT

I absolutely agree with every one of you who maintain we must get out of Iraq. We have no business fighting a war on international terrorism there when it can be more easily fought here. If we were fighting here we wouldn't have to deploy troops so far, just to the corner. If we were fighting here we wouldn't have to rely on the bleeding heart liberal press to tell us what is happening outside, we could open the window - assuming there was a window left - and see for ourselves. We wouldn't have to bring the wounded soldiers home so far - Just run over and pick them up in the family car. Of course, there might be more concern about the civillian casualties when they are us, but we haven't been too concerned about them so far. A trip to the corner grocery store could become an adventure, and every night we could go home and relax, secure in the knowledge the enemy is not going to bother us in our homes. So yeah - Lets all support the bug-out in Iraq! Join Nancy and Hillary and their ilk, and lets get this war brought here, where it can be more easily fought.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

born_7-4, Seattle,WA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:15:08 GMT

It seems republicans would continue this war for another 10 years and 50,000 lives rather than admit they botched it and lost it. Isn't that cowardly? What message did we send the troops when they were sent over there without body armor? Without a plan? The troops should be pleased there is finally a debate about the wisdom of their mission, democracies make their best decisions after a full debate. The sacrifice we ask of them deserves no less than this careful consideration. Republicans lost this war by not questioning the Pres and SecDef when it all began to fall apart. They continue to rubber stamp failure and brand opposition as treasonous terrorist lovers, while they squander the lives of our brave fighters on their lost cause and lost WMDs. Their depletion of our defensive forces has increased our vulnerability. Tough on national security? Criminal negligence. If this mission was so important why didn't they send 300k or 500k men initially to be sure it was done right? The Powell doctrine advocates overwhelming force to limit casualties and end hostilities quickly without a break down in order so withdrawal can be accomplished before insurgencies arise. No questions were asked, no hearings held, republicans in control. The opportunity to help Iraq has been squandered, now we ‘surge’ 17k troops into a city of 6 million and hope to slow the decline into chaos. Why not more? That’s all we have. Our army is depleted, its strength and vitality squandered on poor planning, bad leadership. The exhaustion of our military resources is a rapidly approaching deadline as sure as any date on a calendar and you can bet the insurgences are counting off the days. Our democracy has responded to this crisis, after debate among the electorate that can’t be stifled by republicans, the people have elected new leadership. Still the republicans refuse to accept that they started an unnecessary war, they botched the execution of their war and now they have lost their war. The last hope of republicans is to somehow blame the new leadership sent to clean up the mess they have made.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Don D. Hamilton, Ohio — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:18:59 GMT

Show real support. In the last 12 years, how many times has the veterans funding been timely, and adequate. The people have already spoken. Non binding resolutions are a waste of tax payer money. That time, and vote could have better served our troups. By really supporting our troups. By telling them, we not only care about them. But for them. I am against the war. But 3000+ died, many more will live with it forever. We ARE at war. Show support where we all should agree. We owe it to them. Show them, we got their backs. Put the same passion into Veteran affairs. Support our troups!!!!!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Eugene Wills, Cleveland, OH — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:22:24 GMT

This is just a continuation of a process of demonization of G W Bush which started the first day after his election in 1990. This is also a sample of that which caused me to leave the Democrats several years ago after a lifelong registration in that party.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Gary Jacobsen — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:23:09 GMT

The cowardly actions of elected officials (re: non-binding resolution) proves once again that in a democracy, the people get the kind of government they deserve.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Walter Hoenig, Lakeway Texas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:31:39 GMT

Bush has had no concern for the troops since the day he decided to lie to us and to them in sending them off to war based on lies and deceptions. The only reason he is "concerned" about them now is that he is still exploiting them to hide his atrocious failures by drawing attention to them, and not the STUPID mission he sent them on.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

P.O Albany,NY — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:35:32 GMT

I think you have misinterpreted that vote. I believe it is a first step in a gradual withdrawal of all combat forces from Iraq. As to emboldening the enemy well blowing up shrines and suicide bombing markets seems pretty bold to me. Why don't neo-cons get it? This was a mistake, and throwing away more lives and treasure is not going to turn it around in six months or six years. 70% of the citizenry get's it,and now 60% of Congress woke up and is trying to fix it albeit tepidly but at least there trying to throw water instead of gasoline on the fire.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Patty Albert — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:37:50 GMT

Funny. Is this the same guy who told we invaded Iraq to spread democracy, and when it comes time for our government to do its duty as a democracy, this guy cries foul? What gives?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Bob Burde, Kansas City, KS — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:40:55 GMT

I would like to see the US as "A BEACON OF FREEDOM", but if we do not stay the course and see this through to a free and stable Iraq, we will become the poster child of "cut and run"

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Scott Tepper, Malibu — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:49:35 GMT

Sorry about the typos in my earlier post. If you read Col. Francona's other blogs you'll see that he has no interest in our democratic institutions. That's why debating and voting is cowardly to him. What he wants to do is get the U.S. embroiled in more wars, and if they're badly planned and even more poorly executed, hey we're hurting the morale of our troops if we point it out. Iran is the next war the Colonel is spoiling to get us into. He's already egging on this incompetent administration to bomb Iran back to the Stone Ages. That's easy to advocate when you aren't in the military any more but you now make your money as a "Military Commentator." Gotta stay in business, right Colonel? Your attitude encapsulates everything that's wrong about America, now being ruled by neocon religious fundamentalist zealots fighting fascist fundamentalist zealots. Wallow in it, Colonel.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Michael Sims, Lapeer, Mi. — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:01:31 GMT

The same party that directly caused the death of fifty thousand GI's in Nam and then surrendered is ready to do it again. The U.S. is not a democracy(Socialist state) it is a republic.Go to Europe or better yet Red China for the country of your dreams dems.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dale Gates — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:01:52 GMT

As a former US Army Special Forces Sargeant I find it despicable that such a vote, even non-binding, would even be given consideration. Coming from a family of patriotic people it's unheard of the way a majority of Congress voted. You are the enemy's best friends!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Bob H., Pensacola, Florida — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:04:54 GMT

As a Vietnam War veteran I'm sick and tired of Repubicans calling Democrats cowards. Cowardly is chemically bombing innocent women and children so some jackass from Crawford can control Iraq's oil. Republicans don't give a flying, dead Fallujah baby about spreading democracy. What a joke. Republicans think they can murder whoever they want to control this oil. We're shooting the Sunni and Shia residents who hate us dead in the streets and call them barbarians while they're being eaten by dogs. Republicans couldn't win a war agains a field of tall grass. The G.I.'s want out. They don't want to die for a greasy, oil-stealing hick from Exxon. Republicans are parasites who hide tax breaks in war appropriations bills and the Homeland Security Act and bank war profits while murdering their sons and call themselves patriots. You are cowardly murdering oil stealing parasites from 40,000 feet. Period, idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Bob Kay, St.Pete, Florida — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:12:33 GMT

This is quickly becoming Vietnam all over again with the Press and now Congress eading the way. Since the Revolutionary War this country has had a population percentage that has never felt war and many have prospered from it. Now generations later, they still have no clue. If we turn and run and when the US mainland is again attacked, we will only blame each other, not the enemy who started this. The people must understand that a war is not a four quarter football game. Many of my family were New England Torries. Only two uncles served in WWII, one cousin in Korea and I in Vietnam. I understand the "world harmony,let's just get along, European attitude". I can still feel the spit on my face, the contempt,when I returned home. I still remember Lady Bird's "Pleiku Steak" night after night and more wood paneling then toilet paper "in-country" No soldier can win if support is not behind him. It feeds the enemy. It kills the innocent we leave behind. Our internal dirty laundry today is instantly all over the world enabling the enemy. Congress better wake up. Instead of the Democrats burning desire to "get rid of Bush" or the Republicans running to "what side will stay next election", we need to be united to the world. Congress, I am disgusted in you, and that goes for both sides. Republicans still do not get it why they lost the lead, self greed. Democratics are also showing their true colors. They almost had me convenced they had changed. The Roman Empire took 2000 years. Is modern technolgy going to only speed our run, will we make only 300?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Clifford Spencer — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:20:19 GMT

YES!!! The nonbinding resolution IS a waste of time. What Congress needs to do is cut off funding for this disaster. It has been a boondongle from the start...inaccurate, "stacked" information, no bid contracts that have wased BILLIONS of dollars, and VERY poor management.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

T. Lundin, Newark, NJ — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:23:25 GMT

You sir, and those like you, are the cowards. Why is it that you presume to speak for those in our military, the majority of whom, last I heard, WANT to be withdrawn and allowed to come home. That being the case, your pipe dream about their "morale" being affected negatively goes up in smoke. In 2004, in the Presidential debates, Bush argued that he needed more time to train more Iraqis, while Kerry argued that more should have been trained by that time. Well, either way you look at it, now they have. There are over 300,000 trained Iraqi police and militia to do this job. Saddam is dead. The war, for Americans, should now just be one of support and training where necessary. We can withdraw to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, and the Kurdish portion of Iraq and offer support as requested by the new "democratic" Iraqi government. Remaining, in this supportive role, is NOT "cutting and running". This will allow us to bring many of our troops home, or redeploy them to Afghanistan where the war on terror truly is. Remember that Bin Laden guy? This article shows your cowardice. You would rather be a Bush/NeoCon shill, repeating their talking points over and over, than stand up for the troops you are supposed to represent. You should be ashamed for attaching your name to this drivel.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Al, Burlington, KS — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:34:24 GMT

If I could find someone to tell me who we are fighting for, I might find a way to support this war. My problem is that I can't find any good guys to support. The Shia government has been involved in all sorts of atrocities...like rounding up Sunnis and drilling holes in their heads, while the Sunnis keep blowing up markets and mosques, killing innocent civilians. Give me one visionary, one statesman to stand up and call for peace, and I would rally around him with all the support the US could send. I always hear that we are sending the wrong message to the enemy...what enemy? Who are we fighting against? Who are we fighting for? And we are sending the wrong message to the troops. What message? Which troops? Surely there are soldiers who would like to come home...who don't like and support this war. To cast all soldiers in the same light seems to over simplify the situation. I have heard this all before...in the 1960's. Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here...support the troops...wrong message to the enemy...chaos in the region...spread democracy...been there, done that, don't want to do it again.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Chris Blanchard, Burlington, VT — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:43:37 GMT

Apparently the most detrimental thing we can do to the troops' morale is exercise the democracy that we've told them we're fighting to defend. If Lt. Col. Francona wants a country run by martial law where dissent and debate are outlawed, he should come right out and say so, so his fascist tendencies are plain for all to see.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

tim hovdahl, Chula, Ga. — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:46:54 GMT

Cowardly? How about "treasonous". The moral midgets that concocted this non-binding B.S. should be tried for treason and shot. Congressman Murtha a hero? Yeah well,remember a guy named Benedict Arnold? He to was a hero before he was a traitor.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Marvin Pratt, Orange, Calif — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:51:53 GMT

America was told it would cost 25-50 thousand military lives just to take Iraq, I think in the 3 day adventure we lost 2, or something like that. If the ACLU and alike would spend as much time and money trying to ban islam's (god of death) by legislation and education as much as they try to ban the Juedo-Christians ( God of life) , maybe middle-east freedoms could emerge. Ala wants YOU dead, I guess that’s OK, but only if they get the liberals first !! The U.S. military has NOT and will NOT LOSE anything, they can only be defeated by American cowards or by the word of GOD, and nothing else, surely not by a bunch of cowards hiding behind woman and children like Arafat saying, signing and lying night after night just so he can sharpen his knife.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Michael — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:52:39 GMT

The fact is,unless something different is done,we will lose.Another 20,000 troops wont do it. If the best that can be suggested is more troops,we should pack up and leave now. The fact is,no matter how many troops we send,it will not fix the problems in iraq. The problem is,every day we are there,we alienate more and more iraqis. I keep hearing these comments calling for "full engagement" or "taking off the gloves' Exactly how many more iraqis do we need to kill before they start to like us? 1000? 10,000? Is it 100,000? If we "take the gloves off" and kill a million iraqis,will that make the survivors like us? Will that make them want us to stay? Somehow,I think it will just make the rest of them grab a gun or a bomb vest,or just a stone or a sharp stick and go kill some more americans to get revenge for their brothers,sisters,husbands,wives,sons and daughters that were killed by american bullets and american bombs. Ask yourself this,if it was iraq,in our country,killing americans,no matter how bad our government might be or have been,wouldnt you fight. Wouldnt you be willing to die to throw the foreighn agressers out of your country? Why do you think the iraqis are any different than we are in that respect. As yourself how many americans an occupying power would have to kill before you welcomed them? Why then do you think that more troops,and more killing will help. The problem is,an offensive armys job is to use force to subdue the enemy. They control through fear of being killed.In general,if the cause is right,this can be ok. WWII was an example. We sent armys to defeat and control germany and japan. In this case,its just not workable,regardless of whether or not you think that the war is just or not. The more iraqis we kill,the more iraqis hate us. The more they hate us,the more iraqis go over to the "cause" and kill more americans. If the solution is to send more troops,and kill more iraqis,then we have already lost. If thats all we can come up with,its time to give up and bring everyone home. The fact is,an insurgency is the ultimate weapon of a modern war. So far we just dont know how to defeat it. It defeats an enemy by using their own stregth against them. The stronger the force we use in iraq,the more backlash we create,and the stronger the insurgency gets. Eventually,the attacker gets sick of all the death and expense and gives up. It worked in vietnam,it worked in afganistan,and now its working in iraq. We dont know what the solution is. The solution however is NOT more of the same. (this is often called "staying the course") We need to approach the problem from a different direction,or its not worth the money and the lives to keep trying,when failure is ineveitable.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Robert Dora, Indianapolis, Indiana — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:54:41 GMT

If you support sending our boys to their deaths then you can claim to be "supporting the troops", but that stuff on your hands is not honor, it is the blood of boys who did not deserve to be put where they are to justify a failed policy that was always based on deceipt. You wrap yourself in shame, not glory. You disgrace your country by accusing patriots of cowardice. If it is so noble to go and fight in Iraq, then by all means; go fight in Iraq. There is no coward quite like the coward who sends others to their deaths while he huddles in comfort at home and blames those who had more sense than himself for the misery he has inflicted upon innocents. It is folks like Rick Francona that have made Al Qaida stronger and attracted a new generation of millions to hate America and threaten our country. What a miserable legacy he has left for his country. He should be, but is not ashamed. I am ashamed for him.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

K. Forcier, Manchester, NH — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:08:00 GMT

Typical Congress when the going gets tough cut and run.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Nick Cincinnati, Ohio — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:11:15 GMT

Wow...this country is divided. Will it take another 9/11 (or worse) to bring us all together again?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jay Taylor, Reno, Nevada — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:13:10 GMT

1) Not everyone in the military is serving because they have no choice .. many do so out of principal .. my son being one of them 2) If this is truly a war we CAN'T lose , taxes should be doubled, a draft should be reinstituted and every available resource should be dedicated to winning the war (what ever that means) .. half assed approaches only prolong the inevitable defeat and waste lives ... so if our government and people are really not committed here (WE AREN't), lets get the heck out .. if there are long term consequences we will have to deal with them later after some very significant soul searching and rebuilding of our very broken military 3) think this government supports our troops? --> talk "supportive" or not means nothing ... support means clearly defining a clear objective, then providing all necessary funding , manpower and equipment to get the job done quickly and as safely as possible, aggressive diplomatic support and solutions, competant and CREDIBLE leadership (BUSH and CHENEY? ... not going to happen), provide agressive psychiatric and medical care for vets during and FOREEVER for their sacrifices so WE can all sit around and pontificate (this isn't happening, the VA system is broken, underfunded, and getting worse)... pathetic

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Kenneth Jones Fairfax, Virginia — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:16:09 GMT

It is easy to say what should be done when your butt is not in the grass. I think that retreat without victory is a cowardly and ill concieved non-plan. Instead of retreat, why don't the Democrats and rebellious Republicans come up with a real plan?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Scott in South Texas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:23:46 GMT

Sadly, it does not surprise me that some people equate opposing the war with stabbing the troops in the back, or that it is our patriotic duty to support the president, no matter what, or that if we disagree with the president the terrorists win. It astounds me, however, that anyone would still believe that Iraq had anything to do with 9-11, that we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them at home, or that staying the course will result in a free and stable Iraq. Staying the course charted by Bush and his supporting cast of neocon draft dodgers has proven to be a losing proposition and a recipe for disaster, and there never has, nor will there ever be, a free and stable Iraq. One hundred KIA every month is too high a price for the troops to pay just so Bush and them can save face, avoid having to admit a calamitous mistake, and not have to face the consequences of their malfeasance. If ya'll like the war in Iraq, ya'll are gonna love the next one with Iran.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John Van Texas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:32:38 GMT

I see a lot of we can't win comments. What happens when it moves over here? More 9/11. Where do we withdraw to then?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jerri Dant, Keyesport, Il — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:32:56 GMT

Binding or Non-binding, the President and Vice President will do what they want. But if the democrats don't fund the war (they have already misused the money allocated), the President will blame them if the war doesn't go well. He has had several tries to get it right, but I don't see much progress.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

chaz rolyat — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:40:59 GMT

it is odd that the president does not have the human fortitude to try to open dialect with the factions that are doing the most harm to our soldiers. i have seen first hand what an IED looks like. and it is not a question to me that i don't want to see another soldier face these insidious devices. since the begining of this senseless conflict that the president and his administration started, there has been no clearly defined strategy for achieving a victory. the only thing that i have seen is;(1)the numbers of the dead soldiers keeps rising (2)misdirection and blantant mismanagement (3)the families of the fallen have to deal with an administration that says that they care but,really do not.the only purpose of this conflict is :OIL and companies getting rich from the continous war

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Ed Colon — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:41:51 GMT

As I read the article about the non-binding resolution, etc. I thought I was back reading what the democrat congress did during the Vietnam war. The democrats lost the Vietnam war for us and to anyone who thinks these grandstand resolutions and comments don't hurt morale I can only think how me and my combat infantry unit felt so many years ago in Vietnam when we heard the same rubbish then as now. Don't the elected officials ever learn that they are helping the enemy with their political games!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

scott, lexington KY — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:48:56 GMT

France and Britain are the root cause of this problem, it started in 1917 when Britain took Bagdad in retailiation for siding with the Germans in WW1. Then to make matters worse Britain and France deciding what the borders of Iraq would be without any regard for the situation between the three groups they were putting in a eternal WWF cage match. Why do none of you know the history of this situation?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Michael Schore, Apex, NC — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:52:53 GMT

Douglas MacArthur once said "It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." A corollary might be that it is also fatal to enter any war under false pretenses. Which is where we are now. So for those like Francona who see any disagreement with their view as softness or treasonous I say to them show me why we should be there? Why should my brothers in arms continue to die and be mutilated for the lies of this administration. Iraq is not about protecting our way of life, it is only jeopardizing it.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dan Weinert, San Diego, CA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:55:42 GMT

The Republicans in Congress, always willing to obfuscate and temporize, decried the substance of the resolution as either a meaningless exercise, or the worst message to send our troops. And as usual, they were wrong on both counts. It was with their support and lack of oversight that the Bush Administration has become mired in Iraq. It was on their watch that troops were sent in lacking body armor and uparmored equipment. The blood of 3100+ soldiers and the maiming of many thousands more is on them and President Bush. Like the cowardly bullies they are, they want to know NOW what someone else will do to clean up their mess. They want to ensure that political blame is paszxsed around, and they can escape the reckoning with the electorate that first began in November of 2006. Stated clearly, disagreeing with the President, especially one this incompetent and unrealistic, is a true measure of patriotism. Supporting the troops has NOTHING to do with disagreeing with a policy that ensures more soldiers die. Those that prattle on about "the morale of the troops", demean their intelligence and their understanding of debate in a democracy. The troops are stuck there precisely because there was no debate. The resolution embodies what the American public said in November to Mr. Bush--your policies are wrong and need changing. Get the troops out of a civil war. The cowards are those willing to send young men to their deaths for politics, not national interest. Psuedo patriots waving the bloody shirt are no longer to be feared--they are to be ignored.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John Toro, Washington, DC — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:06:32 GMT

Colonel, with all due respect, I disagree with your assertions. You state that, instead of passing a symbolic non-binding resolution conveying to the President that the majority of the country does not support his war strategy, Congress should cease funding the war, which would force a withdrawal. However, the goal at this point is to give the President a chance to curb his unqualified obstinance and comply with the demands of the American People- those whose sons are risking their lives. Congress is giving the President the chance he is due to act appropriately by abjuring his proposed troop surge. You say that this resolution shows a lack of support for the troops. I ask you, sir, who supports the troops? Does the despot who keeps the American people and their sons involved in a war they do not stand behind support the troops?- A proposition so extravagent it does not warrant an answer. The proper move for the President is to admit that he no longer has popular support for the war- popular support being necessary for any war in a civilized, free nation- and act accordingly. Sending more troops in the teeth of the people's will is imprudent, notwithstanding a decorated Colonel's views to the contrary. The Constitution allots Congress the power to declare war. Why? Because Congress was seen as having direct access to the people's wills; in short, the Framers thought popular support was neccessary for a war. Why would cutting off the funding for the war be a bad move? Because it would put the troops in hard ways, and as I have established, the troops are my primary concern. Cutting off funding would imperil them because (and this is obvious) funding is necessary for armor, food, and other indispensables. Therefore, saying that Congress doesn't care about the troops is like saying that the those who opposed the Vietnam war did not care about the troops. However, in fact, the very oppositte is true. Those who care about the troops do not want the troops deployed to fight in a war we should never have gotten into (at least in the people's view).

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Kent, Spokane, WA — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:06:52 GMT

Francona is correct. The D party is scary at best and Anti-American at worst.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Mike Shoppell, Casa Grande, AZ. — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:12:53 GMT

Over paid and underworked Congressmen and women have shown their true colors once again in a time when patriotic loyalty is paramount. The Dems will live to regret this course of action. God forbid if some terriost attach should occur while the Dems are so called in control. I dred to think what strategy might be employed. Negotiation is not an option with these Muslim fanatics. What really scares me is that Nancy Pelosi is but two heart beats away from the Presidency1

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Robert W. Thomas, Lapeer, Michigan — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:41:10 GMT

I voted for Bush four times (GHWB twice and Sonny Boy twice). At the time of the invasion I had reservations but trusted Sonny to handle the situation like his Father. Unfortunately, Sonny Boy did not learn the lessons of Vietnam and the Gulf War that his Father and Colin Powell learned - massive force, quickly applied is what wins. The so-called surge is nothing more that a Johnson style escalation. To be a real "surge" 40,000 or 50,000 more sets of boots should have been committed as fast as our aircraft could get the troops there. However, Sonny Boy knew that would not sell in Peoria and might actually result in his impeachment. This conflict has been bungled at the very top (Sonny Boy, Cheney [who should have known better] and Rumsfeld) from Day One. It is probably too late to save the situation in Iraq - let's not let the same crew drag us into war with Iran.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

David Tuttle, Lake Elsinore, Ca — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:31 GMT

Can't disagree with the right to dissent. It is a basic right in this democracy. Saying that I must agree that a non binding resolution without doubt was a waste of time, and most likely will cost us the lives of many more of our troops at the hands of an emboldened enemy. That's a major concern, but what concerns me most, is we will exit leaving a very unstable country deep in civil war. Extremists throughout the middle east and elsewhere in the world will see it as an opportunity to step up the Jihad, disrupting the world economy to the extent that we will experience a major worldwide depression. The world runs on oil, like it or not. The Jihadist know that a disruption of supply could bring about a crash that would make 1929 look like a picnic. Their objective is just that, and when we cut and run from Iraq, watch them go to work on the moderate states such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the other oil producers of the area. How many million men and women will the United States have to send to that part of the world to bring stability back to the world economy. Oh yes how many 9/11's will the U.S. and Europe experience while this is all going on. I don't like the Iraq situation any more than most of you, but we are in it and better win. The last thing I want to do is come back and say "I told you so". After all I want your grandchildren and mine to have a safe secure world to live in. It never will be if we don't face up to and defeat the islamic extemists who would take the world back to the 8th or 9th century.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dan McCall, Atlanta, Ga — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:52:28 GMT

I think about this fact, unless you don't read and like being lied to. The Coward-in-Chief and his deferment VP and war cronies LIED about the invasion of IRAQ to you, me and Congress and the Senate. Simply put, they cooked the books and lied about the WMD's and the war. Does anyone of intelligence think this is another conspiracy theory? Most of the reports like the recent Pentagon report say they LIED. Want to read something interesting? Read just the first page of the 911 Comission report. The WH refused to cooperate in the 911 investigation. WHY? So, if you think the non-binding resolution hurts morale. What does the LIE about invading an innocent country do for morale when you die for a lie. Would you feel worse about the lies that is killing you or the non-binding resotution on there morale. What do you think that does for the troops that believed they were going to Iraq to find WMD and would be welcomed with open arms. This administration is a stranger to the truth and can't be trusted when they say they won't attack Iran. Maybe the non-binding resolution is more for the future than the present. The troops were already being sent before the Senate meeting.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

H Brown, Newark, NJ — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:55:14 GMT

If.. If according to the Dems "America spoke loud & clear". Why didn't it pass? The Dems are in charge of both the House & the Senate. So why didn't it pass? If America spoke why did Liberman win in Conn. He was a strong voice FOR the war. Something Dems like to quickly forget. Most of the Dems elected trended Moderate. Not radical left. People keep comparing this to Vietnam. How Bush is leading the US into a quagmire. Well who lead us into Vietnam? Why Pelosi's hero JFK. Who Escalated Vietnam LBJ. He created that war on poverty & great society. How did that "war" on poverty go. Another failed Deomcrat war. Oh and is Democrat not Democratic. Our government is a representative Republic. Which has a Democratic process. The parties are Republican & Democrat. Know the difference. Any Democrat who refers to themself or their party as democratic is anything but. Since after the 2000 election they suggested abandoning the Electoral College.. the foundation of a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. The Electoral College gives the smaller & less populated states a voice in Our Democratic process. Who would listen to Rhode Island or Delaware if not fir the fact that they have weight & a voice thanks to this process. The Undemocratic Democrats saught to take that from them & Alaska, Hawaii, Vermont, Maine & the other smaller states. As well as ome of the less populated middle states Kansas & Wyoming as examples. In such a case winning in high density areas NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Phaladelphia, Pittsburgh, San Francisco and the like could give you a simple Majority win. Which means 12 citties could determine any national election. Is that democratic? Back to the original topic. If after the "failed" D-Day attack where 10,000 were lost approx 2500 killed others missing or wounded. In ONE day! Why did the Republican (minorty) vote that this war was a bad idea? Now we hear how this has lasted loner than WW2 but look at the cost. One battle One Day 10,0000 killed missing or wounded. 2500 deaths in one day. How many people died on 9/11? 2973 I only count the victims. That was one day in a matter of hours. To think that this war has not had mistakes made would be foolish. However in the way we have had to conduct it. It has gone very well. The Russians lost in Afganistan in the 80's in case you have forgotten. We have helped them on the road to Democracy. The terrorists are trying to create a civil war in Iraq & the media is helping feed that line. However if it were a civil war ther are 25 million Iraqis. Why havent the 80% or 18 million not over run the 140,000 US troops to get at the 7 million who were incharge during Saddams rule. Civil war not likely. Seems so hypocritical John Murtha taking funding from the troops. Yet in the 70's he was willing to take money from fbi agents pretending to be arabs only not just then. He wanted the money only later. Our troops are to be supported. If this was true dissent as some claim where is the alternative? The Democrats talked about a surge when they were running. They complained Rangle that we needed a draft and more troops. Now Bush wants more & they don't. If you dissent you should have a counter offer and withdrawl & redeploy is not a viable action. General Patton said - you do NOT pay for the same real estate twice. That is a good lesson. Why send men in and the send them out only to send them back to where they were again. You have to gain ground control more area and squeeze the enemy till they give up or die. Did we get close to Berlin and say okay this has gone on long enough. Did we stop before Japan surrendered? Japan & Germany wanted control over land and the peoples in those areas. The extremists want 1 thing. Anyone who is not with them DEAD. So if you are not a muslim extremist they want you dead. Want proof. Who are the terrorists killing more of US troops or Iraqi citizens? The Iraqis are Muslim. If they are wiling to kill fellow muslims they are more than willing to kill all of us. Athiests look out. They don't care that you don't believe in any God. Christians, Baptists, Mormons, Buddists any religion or lack there of. How do you negociate with someone who's bottom line is that they want you dead. You can't remember that. It's a small thing that they want. It's the only thing they want. You dead. That's all. Then they can have peace. At least until they determine which sect of their religion is most right.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Chris, Portland, OR — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:05:17 GMT

How is George Bush going AWOL not an act of cowardice? Francona has a serious case of selective amnesia.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Lynchburg, Va — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:36:40 GMT

I hear people call the U.S. murders. How quickly we forget. 9-11. The only murders are the muslims and their jihad.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Steve Johnson, NAS Jacksonville, FL — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:40:38 GMT

Paul H. Black - If removing dissent is the first sign of a weakening democracy, how do you feel about the scientists calling for the rescinding of credentials for all scientists who do not buy into the man-made global warming theory?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Mike ,Chino,Ca. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:46:46 GMT

To belief if this resolution was good or bad,it has the right step towards the president,to start working with congress. It is time for the Iragies to take the front lines and the U.S. troops to give the support, I don't belive I have heard any body ask, Why is it that the U.S. soldier takes 6-7 months to train for war and it is taking the Iragie soldier 3-4 years to train? Also WHAT has happend to the BILLIONS of dollars that was given or loaned to Irag?. For anybody to think that by sending more troops is going to win this war, you have to be dreaming. It is time for the Irag government to take charge of there homeland and let the Irag troops do the fighting with U.S. giving the Support. Nobody is saying the funds are going to be cut off from the U.S. troops all they are saying is who is going to be responsible for the that the president is asking for. So far this administration has no clue or not willing to give out information as to What has happen to the first BILLIONS of dollar. As far as looking for people to join the armed services just like Vetiam, the U.S. government was looking to the justice system to get recruits with soft type charges. It is too bad that the Republican Congress did not come up with any ideas on how to fix this war or worry about the U.S. troops when they were in control of congress. It is a mess now, it's time for the Democratic congress to TRY to fix and to get the votes to fix this war, WITH out HURTING the U.S. troops, and then try to concentrate on other matters on U.S. soil. The bottom line is this administration can not keep going the same path and everybody in the U.S. know that(Don't they).

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Sam north bergen nj — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:52:55 GMT

Our forefathers fought for us,thru hardship and sacrifice...and we made it.Its our job to continue on and show the world what we are about.Terror is gripping the world and this people are giving their lives for it.Our ancestors gave their lives for us.If this was for oil how come we are still paying 3.00 a gallon.Someone has to fight against terrorism,if you dont do it for you; do it for your children and grand children.They deserve it.Free people have some rights.Opressed people have nothing to live for.As you will see if this stays the way its going!War veteran and proud of it!!!!!!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Gerry Thomas----Trenton, NY — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:09:02 GMT

You have no right to judge congress. How is their resolution supporting the enemey. I hate reading crap like that from people like you sir. You are acting like you own the right to state your opinion as truth but critize someone else. Your experiences should make you more sound in judgement. The president led the country to a war without meaning and purpose and sir that was a coward act. The troops are smart enough to know that their congress support them but congress does not have to support the mission. I guarantee you that our troops felt that we abandon those in New Orleans. What about that sir. Please, think about who you are writing to when you sit in your throne to minimize the work of people that are not on your side of the issues. I am an american and I love my country and I have served my country but I do not support this war or the president. If that gives confort to the enemy I pray that AlQueda so called leaders come out of their caves and see if I will not blow them away in a heart beat.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Leonard OReilly,Narragansett,Rhode Island — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:30:28 GMT

The President refuses to admit at least publicly,that our involvement in Iraq for whatever reason it is that we are there, is a fiasco.All he can say is not going to cut and run, going to stay until we reach our objections,(what are our real objections for being there anyway?)and so on and so on. He also says that if we leave that region,that the people who want to do us harm will follow us back here,so I guess that means we will have to stay there for eternity since the enemy we are fighting against is an ever changing and evolving enemy every day. Want to talk about supporting our troops? How about getting them the equipment that they need to survive in that hostile environment.We have the most sophisticated armament that the world has ever seen over there, and yet we have troops going door to door and putting themselves in the worst possible danger one could ever get themselves into in a combat situation, without the proper equipment.There is no excuse for this.If we aren't going to get out of there, then lets pull out all the stops and get the job done and stop pussyfooting around at the expense of the fine men and women who have answered the call to serve.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

James B. Carr — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:45:29 GMT

The non-binding resolution is useless! IMPEACH GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY NOW!!! Likewise, let all of the Republican Senators and Bush and Cheney get in to the field of battle---stand a post---fight for whatever it is that they believe! Let then waive the flag and take the bullets themselves, personally and up front. Let them die for the Iraqi Oil that they so crave for themselves and their oil industry corporate supporters. Bring our troops home now!! Iraq is not worth another drop of American Blood!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Dave H. Minden NV. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:46:41 GMT

Stop playing politics with our troops and let them do what they were trainded to do, get the job done, and come home. You can't expect them to win a fight after giving them the best training in the world only to tie their hands behind their backs and oh by the way blindfolding them too, then say, we still want you to win. It's not about the troops, it's about the the people we call politians who haven't got the nads to do what's right. You're in a war, get rid of politics and let the troops end this. Then administer your politics to restore order after everything said and done. You can't fight this war by conventional means. Fight the fight the way they do and it will stop. People die in wars, it's a fact. Terrible as it may be, innocents die as well as combatants. If you let terrorist get away with their brutal ways, then this government and you bleeding hearts get exactly what you deserve. Shame on all of you who tell our fighting sons, daughters, husbands, and wives that what they are doing has no purpose or meaningful right. Everyone of you who don't stand and fight for those who are weaker than ourselves are the true cowards. If I lived over there, I would welcome anyone, and I mean anyone to fight for me so I wouldn't have to live in terror on a daily basis. Not knowing if I would wake to see another day or see if my children would live to have life and enjoy children of their own. So, yes I support our troops and this war 1000% and more as should you. Stop arguing and bickering amongst yourselves, put differences aside and let our troops do what's right, get the job done, and then bring them home. And yes, it is true, we are not the world police. We should clean our own yard before we tell our neighbor to clean his.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

J WhiteYuma AZ — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:49:50 GMT

Congress need to do a up down vote for funding the war effort. Let the cowards place their votes instead of having all the hogwash of the Reids, Kennedys, Kerrys, Hagels. I believe the Senators and congressman would continue to fund the war effort. they were all part of the original decision and I don't believe we can leave without victory. We did that once and we have the backstabbing Kerrys, Fondas likes. .This wasn't Bushes War this was the great USA

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jose Ore, Industry CA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:54:06 GMT

The conservatives had their way the last 12 years and what has the do-nothing congress (2-day work weeks) do but steal from the American people to fill their pockets. How many raises have they given themselves but we can give the working man a raise until they give more tax breaks to the rich. They attack a country that has done nothing to us and destroy it. They lie about the reasons to go there and then tell us we're bad for wanting to know the truth. They out CIA agents and destroy whole intelligence operations to protect their lies. They don't tell us how many people died for that little slip of the tongue. George lies to us over and over yet he's not held accountable because he's a "Christian" and a "Republican". They take our troops and extend there service in Iraq indefinitely, but that's not bad for the troops. They fail to provide body armor and armor plating for their vehicles as they promised, but that's not bad for the troops. They send our national guard to Iraq, but that's not bad for the troops. They give contracts to their buddies that line their pockets instead of those that make the best product, but that's not bad for the troops. They rubber stamp everything George has wanted for his and Dick's oil war for the last 6 years (how long did WW2 last), but that wasn't bad for the troops. George has not listened to any expert that disagrees with him since the beginning of this mess. He'd fire them or ignore them he's been like a loose canon, And guess what they were right and he was wrong all along. So now he's gone and prayed about over Xmas and talked to the same people that got us in to this mess. He's ignore the recommendations of the committed he had form to advised and then poof all of a sudden he's got it right. Its time for the American people to stand up and throw out the rest of this corrupt gutless bunch of liars who put their own welfare first out of office. They can't even stand for free speech because they can't face the truth. Bullets harm our troops not words in Washington. This congress needs to shine a light on all the stuff the last congress and the Bush administration has done to us. Lets see all the truths they've hidden from us.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Christopher Richmond, Ashland, Oregon — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:58:42 GMT

Cowardly, huh? Well, it's a good thing that "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" military types like yourself don't set national policy. Unfortunately, we have a "bring 'em on" zealot in charge who stupidly "broke Iraq", so now "we own it". This obvious subtlety is lost on you, but fortunately, it's not lost on the brave congress men and women of the House of REPRESENTATIVES (Get it? It's the people, remember? Your boss?) Cut off funding for the troops to prove you have courage? Stupid. Send a message the the Idiot-in-Chief? Brave. Or would you rather that Congress continue to claim that the Emperor is fully and properly attired? The only drivel in this blog is gushing out of your silly mouth. What? Now I suppose you want to beat me up? Typical!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Michael Calabrese — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:58:56 GMT

The American voter had spoken this past November. And true enough, the majority of Americans no longer wish to be engaged in Iraq, now for a period of time exceeding our participation in WWII. But the American people do not want to lose this war, something the giddy Democrats do not wish to deal with. No right-minded individual is against honest dissent as this is what this country is about. But let's have some intellectual honesty for a change. If you truly have the courage of your convictions, republican or democrat, stop the funding and bring the troops home. Non-binding resolutions in war-time are frivolous and dangerous. We can afford neither. And make no mistake, WE ARE AT WAR. Re-read centuries of history and do not forget what is really happening in our time. This enemy will not allow us to simply leave. They will follow, make no mistake. I suppose there are those of you out there who will need another twin-towers example or something far worse to possibly awaken your own misguided and frightened souls. For those of us that understand what is truly at stake here, I pray that will not be necessary, and that we will remain safe, in spite of your political fancies. This is no game.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

James B. Carr, Davis, CA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:00:10 GMT

The non-binding resolution is useless! IMPEACH GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY NOW!!! Likewise, let all of the Republican Senators and Bush and Cheney get in to the field of battle---stand a post---fight for whatever it is that they believe! Let them waive the flag and take the bullets themselves, personally and up front. Let them die for the Iraqi Oil that they so crave for themselves and their oil industry corporate supporters. Bring our troops home now!! Iraq is not worth another drop of American Blood!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John L Washington, DC — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:03:32 GMT

It is not a matter of exercising democracy at this point. Any actions that do not serve to accomplish our primary objective, success in Iraq, not only waste time but serve to further the interests of our enemies. Not only the insurgents in Iraq, but the insurgents in AFG, Somalia, Thailand, etc. The words and actions by our elected representatives will jeapordize more lives than that of any troop surge by glorifying the acts of our enemy and reinforcing their tactics as a model to be emulated by others. Why do so many U.S. citizens seek truth in our enemies description of us as a "paper tiger" who cannot endure conflict in the face of casualties? Is this the same country as just a few short years ago?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:11:38 GMT

You and other apologist for this failed policy of an idiot president love to remind us that we need to focus on the quagmire we are in and not worry about the pi55 poor leadership that got us here. NO! Our military, my dead cousin and my damaged son-in-law included, have been put, along with our nation, into a situation that a GOOD leader would not have got us into. And now you tell us we have no choice but to buck up and get behind this President and follow every escalation that he suggests? Then you go on to call the Senate cowards as they attempt some sort of response to the idiot in the White House that doesn’t involve getting on their knees and puckering up like the recently dismissed Republican Majority did for 6 years. LtCol Francona. I suppose it is a tribute to your military training that you never question policy. As a military person that is correct behavior. As citizens we have an obligation to question our leaders on every decision. The fact is our leaders are fallible; the fact is WE are fallible. Witness the past two elections. Sir you and anyone who adopts the credo of “My Country Right or Wrong” are simply bad citizens. What it should be is “My Country Right and ONLY Right” If you haven’t noticed sir the only wars that we have done well in are the ones that the American people have been behind and actually participated in. Part of that pesky Powell Doctrine. BRING EM HOME NOW! In case you haven’t noticed we are going to need them in Afghanistan and Pakistan.. Thats where the enemy has been all along.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Clay Mathews, Coos Bay, Oregon — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:15:07 GMT

Good article! It just shows by all the comments how narrow minded liberals are. Call for peace??? There will be no peace until all the major terrorist organizations have been destroyed. Bush is the only one that has the balls to stand up to people like Saddam and Al Qeida. Liberals just want to live in a society of false peace and thats all it will be if we fail. If we don't do something about the terrorists we will have a lot more 911s. It seems that everyone has forgotten about that little incident in New York. The democrats are causing us to lose this war by trying to get out early. President Bush said from the beginning that this war will be a long one. For the troops over there in battle...That is what they signed up for. When you sign the contract to enter the military you know that someday you might go to fight for your country and possibly die. Let the military fight the war not the politicians.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Joe Las Vegas NV — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:15:59 GMT

I'm sick of these neo-con jackasses that paint everyone that doesn't agree with them as traitors and America haters.Those are despicable tactics of every facist from The Soviets to the Nazis and have no place in a country that embraces free speech.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Joe, Carterville,IL — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:22:51 GMT

It was worse than cowardly, it was blatant aid and comfort to the enemy. The house leaders should be billed for wasting the taxpayers money on this and murtha should be brought up on charges of attempted extortion for the threats against the military budget unless the queen gets her private c-5. i have friends and family over in iraq and to a person, they have said we are winning. the propaganda seen on the mass media is misleading at best. there are now millions of free people that may get to live a life without the torture chambers or rape rooms. there was no outcry when billy boy sent thousands to fight in somalia. same thing. this day of mtv 30 second addhd mentality news where the me now generation should remember that it took longer to find those darned rose law firm billing records than it took to defeat saddam. and yes, there have been wmd's found in iraq, you would have to be a fool not to be able to find the evidence of the sarin gas shells that were booby trapped as ied's. everybody has centrifuge parts under the rose bushes... get real... the liberal facist/communists just want to get rid of free speech and take everything we have to include our freedoms. communist manifesto... yep, conquer from within...

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

J. David, St. George, Utah — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:38:06 GMT

I think Mr. Francona is exactly right, However, let's not forget that the Congress and Senate have every right to be cowards if they so choose. I think we will learn from our mistakes. To me the real cowordly thing to do would be to withdraw now. We don't need to like the war, after all since when has anyone involved in war ever liked it. I think we need to make sure our decisions are responsible not just popular. I object to the notion that losing just a little over 3000 troops in several years is alot. Since when has anyone in any previous war lost so few troops? I think if it was such a mess like some say then we would have lost at least 3000 troops each year or every 3 to 6 months. So, what would happen if we just pulled out? Remember Afganistan in the 1990's when we just turned our backs on it thinking all would be well? Remember just after 9-11 the leaders of our country were saying we can't do that again. To me this is an equally or more dangerous situation. To just leave would be very irresponsible.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

J FOY, Ann Arbor, MI — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:43:03 GMT

1. The resolution WAS cowardly. Nonbinding? why even waste my time? 2. The resolution supports the terrorists - they can now smell a victory over the USA, thanks to the democrats. (maybe this is Vietnam again) 3. NOT ONE DEMOCRAT has come up with a plan or said a word toward victory over these terrorist thugs (let's not forget who sets off the car bombs) If the thugs stopped blowing up cars would this still be a "war". 4. Conservatives may use fear, sure, but flying planes into building scares me - I was in NYC during the first attack, thank God I wasn't there for the second, and I really don't know where the thugs (who have hundreds of millions of dollars at their disposal) will attack next. Will they? won't they? Liberals don't seem to talk about it. 5. How many more building have to go down? How many more "infidels" (read you and me) have to die before the Left in this country realize that "they are coming"? 6. Iraq, if left to it's own -at this point- will turn into another bastion of thuggery, like somalia, Syria, Sudan, etc. New thug bases will pop up and they will train, like in Afghanistan, to kill us. 7. Lastly, no dissent is being squashed - it is just that you are WRONG, and your protests support our enemies. 8. What a mighty nation we would be if we all stood as one, while our troops where in the field.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Yankee Zephyr Olympia Wa. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:47:30 GMT

America is no longer a super power we have become a paper tiger, Korea, Viet Nam, and now Iraq...mmmm why dont we just have a constitutional amendment declaring ourselves as a neutral country. That way we can just build a little picket fence around our shores and sit back and watch the rest of the world blow itself up. Sleep well tonight for there is a soldier standing guard for you.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John C, Ringwood, NJ — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:30:52 GMT

Cowardly huh? Okay big mouth, here's your chance to show how brave you are. Go re-enlist for duty and clean up Iraq. The Army needs tough guys like you. Surely a tough guy like you won't be imtimidated by non-binding resolutions?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Portland, Oregon — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:38:33 GMT

I understand that the troops are fighting for democracy, right? But you're arguing that to have a democracy there, we should suspend ours, because, at the end of the day, the "huts the troops, emboldens the enemy" red herring could be applied to anything that defies Bush. I reject Bush as king of this country, colonel, and welcome Congress doing its job, whether those who believe our country would be better off without dissent like it or not. Now that is a democracy worth defending.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Doug Brown, Morristown Tn — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:43:33 GMT

No matter how one feels about the "surge" doesn't it seem rather strange that the congress voted unanmously to affirm General Petreas but then turned around and rebuked him and President Bush? The General said he needed the extra troops. This act alone should illustrate that congress is playing games. Also, imagine if this were WW2, and congress said. Ok we give our ok for Dday but you can't have the money you need to do it. Where would we be today?

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

don lewis lake odessa mich — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:43:45 GMT

If the dem's would have acted like this during ww.11.then we would all be gosse stepping now. it's time that those dem's and some repub's get there head out of the sand before its to late. we need to WIN this war not run. or this country WILL GET HIT AGAIN only next time it will be a lot worse.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

don lewis lake odessa mich — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:56:19 GMT

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Mike Hoffman, Kenosha, WI — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:10:20 GMT

The non-binding resolution may cause some soldiers and Marines to think that the country does not support them, they would be correct....the dems do not and have not supported them except through lipservice to CYA and appear patriotic in the face of the failed results of misguided policies of the previous democratic administration. What causes this soldier to lose my morale is the understanding that we went into this with our pants half-way down, metaphorically speaking, instead of going in full strength to finish the job with the recommended troop strength from then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Shinseki. Instead, the president gambled with the lives of the American soldiers and the treasure of the American people, and the congress allowed him to. Word of advice, stay outta Vegas, Mr. President, you're not too good at long shots. I wish I could say that my position on this war was firm, but it vascilates somewhere between send us all in to "git-r'-done" and lets cut our losses and get the hell out. By the way, fix the VA so that those who have served and sacrificed aren't further "mis-managed".

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jerry Williams Longmont Co. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:45:08 GMT

Ho-Hum..so what's new? Nothing from the Dems or Reps. The war would end in two weeks, if either party had the gonads. If I remember correctly, the US Taxpayers were going to be re-imbursed for this "political police action", through oil revenues. so while we are there, who is paying the expense after five years.. Our great-grand children. So why aren't the military vets and heroes not get paid fromthis oil fund. Hburton's getting his stolen share of billions. We finished WW II with two blasts. Oh, excuse me that was to finish a war!!! As long as we keep conversation going,,It will be just like the farmer's "Tractorkade." What century, up until U.S. did you hear of a conquered country given back ro the dictator's, along with nuclear recipe. Boy, does the government have their heads you know where. Oh, let's elect somemore lawyer's..they'll get it figured out. No attorney's in either house or Senate. Two terms and out. Incidentally, George Bush's sister Dorethy (Dora) is married to one of the two Koch brother's, who are billionaire oil magnates. Second richest privatly owned company in the US. Oh- Ex-mayor Ed Koch is related, and the German cocentration camp in Buchenwald was run by there father. Mom was known as "bitch-of-buchenwald." Maybe they could through a blank to either George after there term ends for making them billions. Check it out I think you'll see I'm right. Have a nice life.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jerry Williams Longmont Co. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:46:40 GMT

Yea right...Another censorship..Sounds Republic to me.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Alyssa Kee, Clovis, California — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:18:08 GMT

While I believe that a "nonbinding" resolution is quite absurd, I do not agree to the fact that we, as Americans, would condemn a Congress (a Congress that has been more-or-less inactive for a substantially long period) for at least committing to something. Realistically, it SHOULD have been a binding resolution- one that showed authority and determination, for to pass something that leaves no one responsible doesn't help the problem. To belittle the House for taking initiative to seeing that the United States is not being further plunged into economic and domestic disaster, but also producing a shred of evidence that they, as Congressmen, actually care what happens to the men and women dying every day in Iraq- it simply does not logically add up. The House members were cowards for not claiming as much responsiblity as possible when it came to the Iraq Resolution, but then again, they do have their incumbencies to think of (insert scoff here). The Senate not only should sign a similar document, but should proclaim without fear what they mean, instead of dancing around their desires, as the House so blatantly has.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jerry Sanders, Rexburg , ID — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:19:38 GMT

Any idiot with an IQ of 50 can tell you that you can't send 10 people to do a job that requires 30 people. That is any idiot except the one who poses as the leader of the free world.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Donald Bayley, Aptos, CA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:23:44 GMT

After all has been said and done about the resolutions,, I agree with Mr. Francona 100%. This has been a complete waste of time and a morale crusher from the ground up. I'm a liberal democrat, protested against the war before it began, and the idea of a resolution to humble Bush sounded good at first. But now that the dust has settled, it's clear that there's nothing positive, constructive or remotely helpful about it. Nothing but shame. Regardless of the outcome of this debacle -- slow withdrawal, fast withdrawal, lining the borders or killing hundreds of thousands of innocents to defeat the bad guys who will never stop coming -- the resolution is DOA. It exemplifies the worst that politics can offer. May God Save America.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

joe murphy — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:46:33 GMT

there is much i could say about this whole war but keeping to the point 21500 troops to iraq is the wrong idea. we need to use the troops that are there more efficently we need to use the 175 steps to get out of the war so we have diplomacy. if we pull out completly its not that we fear looking weak its the fact that we cant finish what we start. pulling out is not the answer course throwing more troops there is not the answer either. we need change what we are doing is obviously not working. as far as the main part yes i am glad that saddam was killed he was an evil man and deserved it, however its shouldnt have been the way it was. the war was in afganistan. now we have control of the oil...sorry BUSH HAS CONTROL OF THE OIL.we should make a equal trade bill that states that people should get oil at the cost of oil and not make certain companies and or people (left unnamed) extreamly rich this will get rid of the blood for oil and greed that comes with it. and for anyone that says leaving the war is for cowards is it cowardness to want to see us troops home safe? we helped them get the dictator out of power are we going to fight all there battles? what is durring the revolutionary war fance helped us then stayed in america? we would have kicked them out it would have been easy for them to stay and fight during the civil war or taken over then. As far as the people that say we voted of him we should let him do his job he knows what hes doing; we knew bin ladden was a problem in the clinton presidency how could he not know he was a threat we should have noticed two 757 hundreds of miles off course. For people to say let him do his job well the whold reason we have a house and senate is so the people get heard this is the most unfavorible war since vietnam acording to public polls so the fact that the house and senate are trying to do something makes it democracy. In all honesty they dont want troops in harms way they want the president to listen, they would rather have a say in all that happens in this war. cause if you give all the power to one man theres a word for that "dictator". i am not trying to be mean but president bush said "i wish it was a dictatorship it would be easier to run". correct me if im wrong but didnt we take someone out of power for that exact reason? what we need is to finish this war not add to it and not cut and run. hopefully it would be done soon and thats why im voting for hillary

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Jim Miller, Campbell River, B.C. — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:52:53 GMT

Just a quick note- perhaps off topic- many people here have worried that this war will end up like Vietnam where we "cut and ran". But I remember the main reason we went over there (besides to "spread democracy") was to prevent the communists from eventually working their way here. Sort of the "fight them there so we don't have to fight them here" argument. But we cut and ran, the commies never arrived, the country has accomplished a modest recovery and their people are doing better, and if I remember right, even President Bush visited there as a sign of respect. The way I look at it, maybe cutting and running might not be such a bad idea, it worked for Vietnam. Jim Miller

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

John Smith — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:09:26 GMT

What do we the people stand to gain by staying in Iraq? Good will? Not likely. Fear, yes true, but the kind of fear that people reserve for hoodlums running amok in their city, not exactly what we'd want, is it? Cheap oil? 2.57 a gallon of gasoline. Nah, doesn't get us that. Nope. Oh wait, I forgot someone. If I'm a giant corporation with a no bid contract with the government, I get lots and lots of cash with no strings or accounting attached.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

J. Newman, San Antonio TX — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:22:12 GMT

My mother said that she likes the phrase Non Binding. She thinks that Nancy Pelosi should be called The NON Binding Speaker of the House, and that the Democrats should be called the Non Binding Majority. Senator Reid is the NON Binding Majoriy Leader of the Senate. Bush may be called a lame duck, but at least he is binding. He will continue to be binding until the 20th day of 2009. The Democrats were given a special gift by the voters last November. They were given a majority of both chambers of the Congress. Now, they have chosen to waste the gift by being Non Binding.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Mark Battey, Cincinnati, Ohio — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:30:16 GMT

It's not at all a cowardly act. It's really a matter of efficiency. If you can show that you have the votes to accomplish something, it cuts all all sorts of procedural stuff that you would have to otherwise do. I manage large software projects, which is not the same a legislating, but if I can show that I have the support required to do things a certain way then people get out of the way and it moves forward. If not then I have to back off and adjust. It's as simple as that. Lt. Col. Francona is acting as though our soldiers don't realize that they live in the USA. They know that and in our system of government its all about debate. When it isn't we get bad government. This is because no one person is smart enough to know it all in complex situations. You need to build consensus. Doing so shows that you have taken a reasonable approach that others believe can actually work. Many of our problems in the Iraq war have been brought about by working with half-baked ideas that never underwent the scrutiny that serious debate requires.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Carolyn McLemore — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:14:05 GMT

Thank you Lt. Col. Francona! Although I am certainly not a military history expert, I do know that if the U.S. pulls out of Iraq before the mission is complete the ensuing bloodbath will make what happened after we left Viet Nam look like a picnic. People must not have been paying attention in their History classes or are just plain blind to what will happen if the "new" Congress has its way and passes any of their non-binding resolutions about the troop surges. We are in this ghastly mess in the world because of the people who raged over the attacks on our humanitarian missions around the world....Somalia in particular, but many other places as well. When we did not respond with force to any number of attacks on our forces (Khobar towers, the murders of our soldfiers in Mogadishu, Somalia, and the USS Cole attack to name a few) we taught our enemies that the United States is a country of cowards. We taught the enemies of our country that when it comes down to taking a stand we Americans are not made of very strong stuff. We cut and run. We pull out. We bail. Fortunately not all Americans are cowards. These are the people who stand up and step forward when others are looking for more placating, easy ways out. This ' my country needs me and that's what I'm going to do' attitude is what has made the U.S. great. So don't drag the troops morale down Senators. Allow them to complete their assignment. They understand that a lasting peace in Iraq is nessary to protect the people they left at home.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Phil, 10 miles north of George Washington — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:15:37 GMT

The problem, as stated by Col Hal Moore & Joe Galloway in "We were Soldiers ... and Young", is that most of our elected leaders as well as our media can't tell the difference between those that hate war and the warrior.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Windel Oakley — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:49:41 GMT

Yes, the non-binding resolution is a cowardly act, made by the same kind of cowards that caused millions of South Vietnamese to die at the end of that war. The US should never have lost that war, and we should not lose this one either.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

George Smith Jr, Daly City, CA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:04:15 GMT

That was the biggest waste of time, morale breaking, enemy confidence building bunch of crap that only a democrate could think of! In case no one has noticed, the cut and run party hasn't come up with ONE alternate legitimate plan. So typical. Instead of being souly obcessed with getting re-elected or elected at the expence of the troops, try and come up with a plan, that someone besides a coward, could support. Another thing, don't the demos listen to what the troops are saying. Check it out and they would see that the vast majority of personel think they are doing good things for those unfortunate people, especelly the KIDS"

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

fred W. Giers Hemet, California — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:59:17 GMT

I am delighted to view the commentary of so many American dedicated citizens regarding the non-binding resolution,etc. associated with the war efforts. No doubt, all of us concerned citizens are fully aware that our honorable troops are exercising the very reason which gave us the freedom to make these commentaries.The Freedom of Speech! Perhaps we should also be aware that the Commander in Chief,President G.W. Bush has been approved for his honorable position of leadership by the majority of our citzens with the knowledge of his good leadership qualities. Leadership is lonely at the top, as any leader will tell you. It is my humble opinion that in a critical situation such as we are facing in the Middle East, it would behoove all of us loyal citizens of this wonderful America to support the efforts for victory such as President Bush duly deserves. Give the leadership to lead the 'ship' the best way it knows how!!!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

NS, Leeds, ME — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:11:24 GMT

The Dems want to make it a debate on the purpose and righteousness of the war, i.e. are we in Iraq for the right reasons and are those reasons strong enough for you to sacrifice your sons and daughters, spouses and/or parents. The Reps don't want to face up to that so they want to make it an issue of support for troops, even if the troops are in the wrong place for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile troops continue to die, and it is not the democratic discourse nor non-binding resolutions that are responsible - the Commander in Chief has to come to grips and worry more about the troops and casualties than how he and the Reps will look if we pull out. The aim is to buy time beyond the next election in order to save the legacy. Francona knows that - he's probably the only one among you who spent "quality" time in Iraq even before Desert Storm. He knows this war is headed nowhere - it simply has no destination. And let's not keep pretending that Ollie has gotten it right either - he's flittered with the winds, beginning with his strong predictions that the war would take three days (correct) and that all would be good afterwards (incorrect). Bottom line - Rick is pulling your chain - got to keep that blog active!!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

NotWinningNotLosing Tie — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:07:03 GMT

As a servicemember currently serving in Iraq, the nonbinding resolution was not a morale crusher, as some have stated. In fact, I am many of my fellow soldier were encouraged that Congress has placed Iraq and the course of the war center stage for all Americans to comment on. I personally believe it was meant as a message to the current administration and the will of the people. However, I also believe that the President needs to have the ability to make military decisions independent of Congress and the some insulation even from the masses. Clearly, most Democrats and some Republicans question the current direction in Iraq. Where were the current Democratic contenders for President during the last four years on the war. The only Democratic candidate I have respect for is Obama, sadly. He was the first candidate I have heard that seems to have actual goals, ideals that are not based on poll numbers. Hilary Clinton seems to vote whichever way the polls blow her. It's amazing that Obama stated we should withdraw from Iraq, and now Hilary is saying the same thing. I personally believe the biggest mistake in this war has been the attempt to create a democracy in a nation and peoples devoid of the capacity to understand or implement the fundamentals of democracy in thier society. Letting the Iraqis pick thier own gov't, no matter the composition, would have led to the creation of a more stable Iraq and a possible ally. By forcing our form of gov't on the Iraqi people, we have created a flash point for all Islamic Fundamentalists to exploit and to point at, as examples of Western Imperialism and even as an example of a holy war against Muslims. Unfortunately, I believe Iraq is and will continue to be a safe haven for terrorists. Perhaps we can get it right in Gulf War III...........

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Rick Sharp — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:24:59 GMT

G.W had almost the whole of the world behind the U.S.A. after 9/11.............look at us now. The crazy part is the re-election of this prima donna. All war is lunacy...just remember the before and after of Viet Nam...all the young men died for sweet F.A. Rick Sharp Seattle WA.

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Joe Williams — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:40:29 GMT

Amazing, I have served in Iraq and seen the face of this vermin we are fighting. He is not going to stop if we leave them alone to grow strong. Only a fool would cut off funding and run home to pretend that everything is okay. They will come to us again, I have seen it in their eyes. It will not happen quickly, our enemies have something we do not as Americans, will power to stay focused. Most of the people that I talk to the war about say that "it bothers them". My response is, this "How does it affect you?". Their response to me is they are tired of seeing it on TV! Now that is a good reason to put our head back in the sand and hope everything is going to be okay. Remember this: They will not quit when we do!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Stephen Barlow Right next door , USA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:36:35 GMT

The point of this war is NOT Patriotism, control of oil, or religion. For the Republicans... it's profits. This war, and the longer it gets dragged on at minimal expense (<5000 lives, 20,000 wounded) The more Cheneyburton, Bush, Inc., and friends can squirrel away. Why do you think the Republicans made next to zero effort to investigate Enron, Jack Abramson, and other criminals? After the blowjob scandal... really shows their integrity there! This war is about greed, and getting mired in the insignificant details is exactly the slight of hand political magic they WANT to distract you with. Abortion, Stem cell research, gay marriage, fix Social Security, all these isssues are smoke so you don't see where your taxes are going. 600 billion dollars will feed the hungry, house the homeless and protect weomen and children from domestic abuse IN AMERICA! American Dollars for AMERICANS FIRST!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

A. Veteran, Inland Empire, CA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:43:31 GMT

This is extremely SERIOUS. It is not enough to just sit in your own safety place and comment on a blog. American Men & Women GI's in a for off foreign land (IRAQ) are directly being KILLED by the political showboating of Congress (D & R's) JUST AS THEY DID TO MY FRIENDS 40 YEARS AGO! Write to "your" representatives, I did. Write to every member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I did. One Senator "auto replied" that she ONLY communicated with constituents of her state of New York = HILLARY CLINTON. Doesn't she understand that by being on THAT committee that she is RESPONSIBLE TO ALL 50 state's citizens? There are marches on Washington & through out the nation again showing our GI's enemy "OUR" lack of resolve. WHERE ARE THE VIETNAM VETS? WHY AREN'T WE MILLIONS MARCHING TO SHUT DOWN THE PUBLIC DISPLAY BY POLITICIANS FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL GAIN. HOLD ALL THE DISCUSSIONS YOU WANT (BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) IN THER INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY, OR ARE THE AMERICAN GI's DYING IN IRAQ "IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST" ____________________________________________________ MY LETTER TO THOSE IN CONGRESS FIRST, I realize this communication will NEVER be read by “YOU” but rather, “IF” read at all, it will be speed read by some young staffer who isn’t old enough to have any knowledge about Vietnam except what they read in history books in high school. The current Congressional debates AND “Run for the Presidency”, being BROADCASTED TO THE WORLD (INCLUDING THE IRAQI American GI’s ENEMY), over this country’s LACK OF RESOLVE is based upon “polls” of how you see that “voters” see you, NOT in the DIRECT BEST INTEREST of the safety of the American GI in IRAQ or anywhere else! How soon “YOU” (Congress) have forgotten the lessens of VIETNAM, or perhaps your on political agenda, aspirations, political office hopes, etc cause you to CONVENIENTLY FORGET! After all “YOUR” husband, wife, brother, sister, son or daughter IS NOT THERE IN HARM’S WAY! I AM astonished, surprised, amazed, astounded, dumfounded, flabbergasted, overwhelmed, dazed, speechless, bewildered, shocked, thunderstruck, stunned, disbelieving, confused, puzzled, disoriented, baffled at the apparent lack of understanding of what “knowledgeable” people are doing to the American GI in IRAQ. The more GI’s that are killed, the better your political agenda, the louder your worldwide rhetoric, then more GI’s are killed and your rhetoric increases directly to benefit your perceived political image. The spiral is ever upward! MOST OF ALL I AM UPSET, DISTRESSED, SADDENED, OFFENDED AND SINCERELY DISAPPOINTED! I served in Vietnam in 1968. That was the year; Johnson said he would not run for reelection, the “peace talks” had been proposed AND Congressional “LACK OF RESOLVE” was being broadcast LIVE to Hanoi! The DIRECT RESULT of the above (GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN TIME OF WAR) was the INCREASED DEATH OF THE AMERICAN GI’s IN VIETNAM!!!!! Giving “Aid and Comfort to the enemy in time of war” used to be defined as TREASON! It is certainly grounds for impeachment of all those participating in it, if not also cause for jail time. The current Iraqi INCREASED American GI DEATHS (i.e. the 5 killed by the enemy recently dressing in American uniforms and driving black SUV’s) IS the direct result of Individual Congressmen and women who care about “their” political future NOT the American GI giving the enemy renewed reason to kill more GI’s! If you don’t’ believe this look at the results; the Vietnam Wall (1959-1975) has ~ 140 panels OF WHICH MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE PANELS ARE JUST FOR THE NAMES OF THE DEAD IN 1968. In addition, it takes 12 panels (full tall panels) just to list the dead for TWO DAYS, May 24th & 25th, 1968! This increased carnage came after Johnson’s speech and continued congressional “political debate” over “their” “Lack of Resolve.” There were numerous communiqué’s captured from the Viet Cong, that originated in Hanoi, encouraging them (the VC) to not lose “their” resolve. They should not worry about winning “battles,” but just concentrate on KILLING as MANY AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE. The Americans would LEAVE Vietnam BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING LACK OF RESOLVE IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (demonstrators) AND THE AMERICAN CONGRESS!!!!!!! “NOT” by VC battle victories. IF CONGRESS’ CONCERN “IS” FOR THE WELFARE OF THE AMERICAN GI’s WHY ARE NOT YOUR HEARINGS AND DEBATED HELD BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN THE “INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY” WITH VERY STRICT GAG ORDERS AND PUNISHNEMT FOR ANYONE WHO LEAKS INFORMATION TO THE PRESS. THE AMREICAN’S RIGHT TO KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE DOING YOUR ELECTED JOB, NOT TO WATCH YOU POSE FOR CAMERAS AND PROMOTING YOUR POLITICAL IMAGE. YOU HOLD MANY HEARINGS & DEPATES IN PRIVATE “IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY.” THE LIVES OF THE AMERICAN GI’s, ARE THEY NOT “IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY?” THE ANSWER TO THAT FOR CONGRESS IS “NO” JUST LIKE WE WERE NOT 40 YEARS AGO!

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Phyllis Oliver — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:51:18 GMT

As a mother of a soldier serving, and one who had brothers serving during Vietnam, I am sick of this war being compared to Vietnam. It is not the same war. It doesn't even come close except in someone's imagination. This vote was a joke. I voted for mostly democrats since I am an Independent and I did not vote for a cut and run policy. That's like Bush saying after his election that he had political clout. I should have known better that the democrats would do anything that was of worth or value. This has nothing to do with being able to have a voice of political consent. This has everything to do with political posturing and how to get either party into the white house in 08. I resent it very much on both sides as my son is being used as political fodder by all. And should there still be some of you who feel this has gained more terrorists than we had, sorry but you are wrong. You should concern yourself with what these kids over there have been watching for years before we got there and it isn't pretty. Make no mistake, should we leave there, they will follow us home. America needs to grow some big ones and a spine along with it. And that's coming from a mom who has a whole lot more to lose than most of you reading this.

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Ana R. Cixie — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:14:20 GMT

According to Francona and people like him, war -- any war -- is God, and therefore the only correct response is to fully support the President as warmonger-in-chief regardless of whether the war was based on a pack of lies. Because of people like Francona, the United States has degenerated into a corrupt empire where the only role of the people is to obey. I don't know if we can rescue the country from these people any more.

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D.J. MIdnitemarc — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:04:46 GMT

My concerns go deeper. Is the President planning to go thru the middle east the same way Hitler went thru Poland and then Europe. These people have the right to govern themselves any way they see fit. They do not need our approval. At some point if Congress cant stop this mad man then it will become the responsibility of the American people. If just one innocent civilian has died in Iraq then we the American public are guilty of there death. Blood is on our hands. So how is this better. These people live by there own code. One we cannot understand. And I am sure it is all fun and games until it is your son or daughter is KIA.......

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Brian Rose — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:27:40 GMT

Yes, the Senate failed to pass a non-binding resolution. Was it a waste of time? No. Debate in a free society makes it free and strong. Some conservatives don’t want to talk about the truth. Nearly 65% of the American people don’t support this war or the Presidents plan to stay the course. It takes guts to stand up and say how you feel and what you want. This attempt at debate in the Senate reflects the courage of the Congressional leaders to begin the process of leading the President and his Party back to reality. The American people support our troops. They supported the President and the invasion of Afghanistan by more than 95%. This was the Senates first attempt to get bi-partisan support for doing the right thing—following the will of the people and bringing our troops home. We don’t need to be in the middle of a civil war spinning rhetoric about democracy and freedom as the reason for our being there. Most wars from the beginning of time have been fought over money, property and resources. Do you suppose for one-second oil or oil profits could be the real reason we are in Iraq? We have lost the moral ground here. We need to end this war and deploy our troops for truly legitimate democratic causes.

Non-binding resolution: A cowardly act

Scott H., Providence, RI — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:45:04 GMT

If there is anything that hurts the morale of the troops, it would be the knowledge that their supposed "Commander in Chief" sent them on a fools mission with mis-information and lies as an excuse. And now he wants to put more of these brave and honorable men and women in harm's way with no defined exit strategy and a vaguely defined mission strategy. This administration threw us head-long into this conflict with minimal planning and basically no support from other nations; all the while chanting the mantra "if you're against the war, you're against the U.S." And here we are fighting an insurgency and trying to mediate a civil war. This is not our military's purpose, and to ask our troops to lay down their lives for this is morally reprehensible.

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F U — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:53:18 GMT

Just another Republican that hates the American Soldier so much that he wants them all dead! You are SCUM!

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Joe Conor, Clearwater, Florida — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:54:26 GMT

It's blindingly obvious that our presence in Iraq is doing only three things: 1) Unifying Arab and Islamic extremist entities against us. 2) Serving as a powerful global recruitment tool to bring more volunteers to these extremist entities. 3) Creating a war zone where our troops have a part, no matter how small, in killing innocent civilians (i.e. more bad global publicity). We need to leave Iraq now. The talk about fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here is idiotic. Osama got lucky. Do you think that now, with all the money we're throwing at Homeland Security, another 9/11 would happen again? Or that a terrorist could ever sneak a nuke into the USA? If we are still worried about that, then we have to focus more money and effort on OUR COUNTRY and not on Iraq. Think how far the half a TRILLION we've spent on Iraq would have gone to fix problems here. If we left Iraq right now, the extremist factions and terrorist groups would be left to fight amongst themselves over the scraps of Iraqi territory. I say LEAVE THEM TO IT. Our late and half-hearted effort to bring democracy to Iraq has failed and was bound to do so from the beginning. We OCCUPIED the country! For the love of Pete, how can you create a democracy that way? The only democracies I know of happened from within, because that's how they have to happen! Of course, we can't leave . . . because of the oil. The only solution then is to install a hard-line dictator loyal to the USA to bring some stability to Iraq, like we've done a hundred times before in a hundred other countries.

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Ken, Easton, PA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:15:17 GMT

The same individuals clamoring to get out troops out of Iraq would be the same ones questioning why nothing was done to prevent any new attacks on OUR SOIL. President Bush HAS put more pressure on the Iraqi government to take more action to protect their own people. I do support the temporary buildup of troops. Telling the world that the Democrats will pull out each troop is telling the world that we flitter with the wind. We need to support our troops and our Command in Chief!

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rob portland oregon — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:37:51 GMT

so you think another 3000 coffins is a better idea ? you see, maybe there is no pure way out that will satisfy the military ego, but that´s the result of a mis-guided war entry in the first place ?

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old jarhead, omaha — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:40:21 GMT

As a marine, I wonder where the people who say the troops want to be withdrown are from. Everyone I know from the old breed want to finish the job like we did not do in 1990. War is not pretty and it does not go the way you want. If you want to win you ned to kill the enemy not talk to them. If they are willing to die for their cause it is our jb to arange it for them. Where are the leaders in this, we need a Chesty Puller, or a George Patton. If we put boots on the ground, we owe it to the troops to allow them to win. you will never win without making it to terrible to resist. Remember dresden, hiroshima, atlanta, the list goes on. CMC should take the marines at 8th and I and march on the capitol, then tell congress how things really work in battle

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Erik Kosberg, Minneapolis MN — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:44:30 GMT

The war is lost. Congress recognizes this fact, Bush has his head in the sand. Yes, it is very possible to support the troops AND oppose the doomed mission that has been assigned to them. Francona is sadly mistaken to think that there's a contradiction.

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Nick, Atlanta — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:45:32 GMT

This guy doesn't understand nuance. I think things are too complicated for him.

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Charles Strader, Grapevine, Texas — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:49:16 GMT

I believe that our troops are intelligent enough to know that a non binding resolution is no threat to them. There’s plenty of blame to go around here. The decision to deploy troops to Iraq was a bad one from the beginning since the U.S. went to Iraq under a faulty premise to begin with. The objective of a common reasonable man is to get out of a hole, so he has to stop digging the hole at some point.

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Tom Geneva Ohio — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:51:30 GMT

The people who are calling for a cut and run strategy are the same people who will be cursing the loudest when the terrorists are at their doorsteps. You can't win with liberals unless you address homosexual marriage. To them the subject is far more important than any soldiers lives, or the safety of the American people.

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Jason McJ, Baltimore, MD` — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:52:58 GMT

Soory, the war coan't be won. Best cut our losses. Only delusional folks who think USA can't losr support ANY increase in troop levels. It is a logical fallacy to assume that those who support not funding a surge also beleive we are not supporting the troops. Support them by bringing them home. Right-wing folks are fooling themselves by saying that it only takes the mettle of our troops to 'win' Nonsense, Iraq is a lost cause. Why do people like the author insist on sending more troops. Do you actually think that the USA will win and that Iraw will have a viable democracy? Please enlighten us with you wisdom instead of more fear-baiting and psuedopatriootic rhetoric of "the American Congress does not support their troops" You should be ashamed for even making this now-common leap of ignorance, to assume that anything other that wholehearted support for Bush amounts to terrorism is absolute nonsnese. It didn't work in November and it won't work in 2008. Republican hypocisyt know NO bounds!!!!

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RJ Renton. WA — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:53:34 GMT

I guess that some of you posters haven't been paying attention. The fact that only about 20 to 30 % of the people support what King George is doing has been public knowledge for a while now. The non-binding resolution has nothing to do with supporting the troops. It has everything to do with not supporting the deaths of American kids, fighting for Iraq's government, in what now is a civil war. We (the American peoples) were mislead about who we were fighting and why. It has nothing to do with terror and everything to do with revenge. Thanks King George.

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Eric Smith — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:54:32 GMT

Over the past five years, Congress has completely failed in its primary duty to provide a check and balance to the executive branch. Bush has been given a blank check to conduct the neocon militaristic agenda. What has resulted is complete disaster for the United States - total loss of respect around the world for America's ability to stand for moral order, spinning the volatile Middle East into the brink of total anarchy, and the worsening (not lessening) of the terrorist threat. The Democratic Congress has now taken a small, but not insignificant, step to reverse this process. Whether they can follow it up with some real action will be the true test. But the days of the blank check are obviously over. Every request by Bush for funding and every action he takes in Iraq will be heavily scrutinized, unlike in the past four years. Bush may yet be able to achieve his goal of handing the mess off to the next president, but Congress is finally indicating that at least some brakes will be applied to the runaway train.

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chad murphy — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:57:05 GMT

Dang, does Lt Col Francona ever do any actual military analysis? I can't remember a single column of his that doesn't rely entirely on RNC talking points. Its your money MSNBC but I don't see why you pay a so-called military analyst to deliver Republican propaganda when the RNC will e-mail it to you for free.

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roger hall, boulder, colorado — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:02:46 GMT

The reason for the surge? All Bush is trying to do is cover his ass before his term is over then hand over this mess to the next democratic president, all at the expense of the troops on the ground now in harms way. Remember Agnew's 'peace with honor' initiative? How many lives were lost because of that sentiment, and to what end? The surge is folly. Congress knows it. Many ACTIVE military know it and have stated as such. And Bush knows it. Now, how demoralizing can being on the ground outside of the green zone be knowing that your reason for being there is based on lies?

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Jason Hoffman, Pacific Junction, Iowa — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:37 GMT

I hear a lot of this kind of talk from people like Lt Francona. I listen to the Old WWII and Korean War vets in my small town. They tend to despise people like Lt. Francona. When they tell you that they've seen a thing or two, brother they have and then some, and these guys havent. They came back from the war Shattered, scarred, and broken. My grandfather was one of them from The start of the War until the end of the Nuremberg trials. He drank himself to death after that and would never speak of the War. Guys like this Lt. Francona calling other americans "traitors" make me sick. I think you are a coward Lt. Francona. You couldn't take 5 minutes of what the WWII generation did. I was raised by that generation, I revere them. You call me a traitor and we are walking outside. You wanna fight someone so bad, fight me. I think you'd better cut and run like the cowardly dog you are. All bark and no bite.

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Stephen Jauregui III, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:59 GMT

It seems that in light of most polls that more citizens are against the open-ended continuation of this war. In light of this situation congress is actually doing its job. I'm a retired NCO who fought in Vietnam and a firm supporter of our country and the military. However, I believe that our involvement in Iraq is as an egregious error as our involvement in Vietnam. This is not cowardly and is a step in the right direction toward bringing this tragic situation to an end.

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Abu Rafi, Detroit, Michigan — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:07:45 GMT

I agree that the Democrates are somewhat cowardly in not earnestly trying to end the war in Iraq as most Americans wish. But George W. Bush is the real coward (he evaded combat in Vietnam only to become a blood-thirsty, warmongering president). He has made the world a more dangerous and unstable place. Despite the additional soldiers in Iraq there is more violence, bloodshed and chaos. The U.S. neo-Crusader war in Iraq has proved to be a horrific misadventure, costing billions of U.S. tax dollars and over 4,000 dead and 25,000 injured U.S. troops and contract workers. Not to mention the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqi non-combatants. President George W. Bush's policies in Iraq are a complete failure. Now President Bush is trying to blame Iran for the U.S. troubles in Iraq. Iran is not the problem in Iraq, the presence of U.S. and U.K. occupation troops in Iraq is the problem. The reasons for going to war were based on lies. The devilish U.S. Neocons simply wanted to steal Iraqi oil and placate the Middle East for Zionist Israel. George W. Bush's imperialist war has only hastened the establishment of a pro-Iranian, anti-Israeli, Shia theocratic Islamic state in Iraq. The U.S. folly in Iraq has helped spread the influence of Iran in the region and has furthered the Islamic revolutionary vision of the late Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran. God (ALLAH) works in mysterious ways.

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HDR KID — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:21:46 GMT

I see war with Iran soon. They are getting ready to hit us. It is a matter of time. After that there will be a draft, gasoline rationed, shortages of food. We have no choice but to fight. So sad.

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Bob Phillips — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:24:02 GMT

Please ! just one leader wanted to stand up and tell the truth, political correctness be damned ! The facts are all there for anyone to discover who cares to. We ( the American people and the world ), have been and continue to be, lied to, missled by the group of war criminals in Washington we call leaders. This prepostoris atrosity of a war which began with lies and deceit needs to be ended NOW , before one more innocent victem is claimed. The popular retoric ( we need to fight them over there or else have them here ) is just more lies, check out our open borders with thousands of illeagel alians coming in every week.....are we so stupid as to believe that a terrorist or terrorists couldn't come here any time ? Truth is that we have become the terrorists thanks to our great governments greed and total disregard for hummanatarian rights all over the world ! I'm scared to death that the damage is irreversable and that our nation has been so badly corrupted that it can never regain it's once proud heratage of a nation devoted to protecting what is good in life ! Again , where is the leader we need to tell us the truth and not be afraid to be politically incorrect ?

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Michael C, Groton, CT — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:30:43 GMT

Does every right wing pundit think that the military is composed entirely of republicans? When they say that "All democrats are cut and runners!", what does that say to democrats in the armed forces. How do statements like that support our troops. It tells them that even though you are fighting for your country we (republican we) think that you don't deserve any of their respect. They think that even though you are defending their rights they have the right to TRASH you.

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Paul D., Granville, IA — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:01:03 GMT

I wonder if the Democrats are ever disturbed by the fact that their rhetoric is a word for word match for that which comes from the terrorist leaders and their mouthpieces. Kind of scary isn't it?

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Ron, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:16:43 GMT

I'm always annoyed by the dime-a-dozen colonels out there in the media who pretend to speak for the millions of us who've served. I've encountered very few Colonels, in fact none, who had the least clue about morale. To be expected since all they got from us were snappy salutes and a hearty "HOOAH!" even if we knew they were a complete waste of skin and the mission was FUBAR. An active duty CSM's viewpoint on morale would be more to the point, if they could possibly speak honestly without consequence. But I guess I'm more focused on our soldiers lives and limbs and less on their feelings. I want them out of that meat-grinder religious war and I frankly don't care how many Iraqis are killed by Iraqis when we leave. I know we broke it, but a half trillion dollars, 40,000 wounded and 3200 dead is more than we should have to pay for George Bush's lies. Getting more troops killed and maimed so the Shiite mullahs can rule both Iran and Iraq isn't worth one drop of American blood. Moreover, I think the only thing that could take morale lower is knowing that as they are sent into the grinder yet again in pursuit of this mad military adventure, instead of trying to extricate us, their Congressman is cheering Bush on as he takes us deeper into the quagmire.

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todd, austin,tx — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:33:36 GMT

the last time i checked, the "cowards" in congress you so easily condemn were exercising the very constitutional governmental process our men in uniform were in uniform to protect... i'm sorry if we're only now seeing a check to the previous imbalance of power that put us smack in the middle of this useless war... perhaps if someone who didn't have a financial interest in iraq had explained the complications of middle-eastern politics to the idiot-in-chief, we wouldn't be talking about how to bring our troops out of a dangerously pointless situation without hurting their feelings... i, for one, would like to hope that our men in uniform know what they are fighting for... and what they are not

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Rob, Washington DC — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:43:20 GMT

It's hilarious how the Lt. Col. suggests the enemy can't win this war. The enemy decided what kind of war we would fight and they have won it...our leadership refuses to accept that. The morale killer is knowing the President, the Vice President, and their ideology-driven advisers have gotten over 3000 of our finest killed for nothing in the first place. There would be no need for any resolutions if the President wasn't so much of a coward that he can't admit defeat and cut our losses. As for who's fit to be where, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld are fit to be only one place: prison.

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jean langford m., Durango, Colorado — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:07:22 GMT

Gosh ...boys and girls...after May 2007...when 3,000 centrafuges go on line in Iran to make plutonium for Nukes....It won't matter what anyone thinks....The Jewish State will have Nuked Iran into oblivian...and all of us will surely follow.....have a nice day.