http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspxWhy were Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff Scooter Libby so intent on avoiding responsibility for Joseph Wilson’s 2002 trip to Africa?  The trial heard sworn testimony several witnesses that it was the Vice President’s inquiry that triggereden-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80541Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:50:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80541Jay Heit Los Angeles, CA Patrick Fitzgerald for president. The one man in Washington who hands down understands the meaning of truthhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80577Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:59:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80577Robert, Sacramento, CAThe trial was a waste of time and money. I think the press has made to much out of this. So he forgot what was said or heard and had a memory relapse, look at all the politicans who have had memory relapses, especially during the Clinton Administration. If the democrats go after this administration, they should be ashamed of themselves.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80585Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:00:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80585Bob M, Milford, PAThis is an act of treason. As a former member of the military service, this behavior is a disgrace and insult to the USA. It truly makes me ill in the pit of my stomach. That the defenders of freedom would throw a patriot "under the bus." And, as usual, Scooter will go to Allenwood to work on his tennis game and talk a lot on his cell phone. Then, will be pardoned by President Bush on his last day in office, just like the President before him. I am ashamed that there isn't an anger in veterans groups and the intelligence community that this act of treason isn't treated as such. I believe George Washington would hang him from the nearest tree. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80594Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:01:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80594Karla Golay, Oakridge,OregonLibby is just the first in a long line of men responsible for starting a war on false pretenses. George W Bush and Dick Cheney wanted this war and did everything they could to drag the country into war, shamefully using the Sept 11th attacks as an added catalyst. The guilt doesn't stop with Libby, it goes all the way up into the farthest reaches into the White House. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80596Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:02:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80596Mike North CarolinaAn expensive legal exercise in "bull". Appeals will last until 1 day after Nov 2008 election. Of course, Bush will pardon him. Libby was a good soldier. Of course no one has the guts to go after the real criminals. Nice to have power and money. You & I would be rotting in federal prison.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80602Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:03:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80602Linda Thomas, Oneonta, NYSo who gets charged with outing a CIA Secret Agent? What about the culpability of Bob Novak?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80604Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:03:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80604Rodney Franklin, Houston, TexasThis case goes to the heart of the problem with this Administration's practices and policies. Misleading statements to the American People which lead to War and coverups,lies and inaccuracies to support the Administration's position at all costs. After 9/11 I just expected more from the President and Vice President-I thought "We (Americans)" were moving towards a more truthful, honest and straight forward government, but unfortunately we miss the mark, again.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80619Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:08:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80619Kate Marshall, DCLibby: The American people deserve the truth. We have spent billions of dollars and lost thousands of lives in a war that could and SHOULD have been prevented. Please come clean to Patrick Fitzgerald, and more importantly, to the American .http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80623Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:08:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80623josh b, san diego, CAI still don't sense outrage generally from people, only apathy or downright ignorance of what is going on. I doubt that a presidential pardon (which sounds inevitable) would make people angry. Does anyone care about the integrity of our government?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80637Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:11:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80637Joe Walden, Janesville WIFitzgerald's skillful prosecution of this case will ultimately lead to the conviction of the Bush/Cheney Administration in the court of public opinion.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80640Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:12:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80640Inge Olson, York, PAChris: “Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying ….” I think it is right verdict Now if we could only prosecute all other lying Reps., we might have an almost empty house. According to special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s TV report today, “There is no more special prosecution” We should ask why not??? Regards, Inge - PA http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80653Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:14:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80653Mark DIf Bush does pardon Libby. It will be the exclamation point after worst president ever.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80655Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:15:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80655Arthur WebsterAlthough there have been recent time lines indicating that the Wilson trip was arranged prior to Cheney asking, the question that Cheney probably asked was: "Who is this idiot writing in the NYT?" If Wilson was the best person to send to Niger, than this country has a serious lack of talent in and around the government. Obviously Plame arranged her husband's trip. And just as obviously Wilson lied about the trip. It is just hard to figure why Libby just didn't fess up and admit that he discussed Plame with several journalists. After all, by saying that Plame arranged the trip for her husband, he was telling the truth. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80656Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:15:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80656John, San Francisco, CAGovernment has become a fiction. The world is now ruled by corporations. Wake up!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80657Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:15:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80657Eric S, North CarolinaIt would only be just if SOMEONE would go after the folks really responsible for the tragic war we find ourselves in now.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80658Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:15:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80658Jeff, San Rafael, CaliforniaWe the people are apathetic and cynical only because our representatives are. Politics has become nothing more than a wrestling match, televised, violent and brutal grudge matches, and in the end, scripted to a t. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80665Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:16:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80665Kevin R.Sandy Berger is the one who should be going to jail.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80666Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:16:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80666Michael Contino, New York, NYPoliticians and the Press. They deserve each other. Common sense dictates that it doesn't matter who said what to whom. We are in a WAR. The only answer is to win the dam war.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80672Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:17:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80672paul, chicago, ILI only wish it would oust cheney and bush tomorrow lets save ourselves from ruthless dictators....asap...this probably will keep going until the end of Bush's term by then it'll be to late. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80675Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:18:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80675b.g. Waco, KYThis is one small victory for truth, and hopefully, one giant step toward accountability for the Bush Administration. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80676Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:18:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80676Pam B, Raleigh, NCYa, as ashamed as the republicans are letting Ken Starr spend so much tax payer money - I say, let the public know just how shamful this administration is!! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80682Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:19:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80682Melanie K."The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused on what's best for America, honest men and women, decent men and women, women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will not stain the house." GWBush Jan. 15, 2000 Meaningless rhetoric or flat out lies? This administration is a terrible disgrace and it will take us decades to recover from the damage they have done to our once proud nation.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80683Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:19:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80683San Diego1. Libby did not impede the investigation. Fitz knew from outset who leaked Plame. He was fishing for people who would lie to stay out of jail. He found them in droves. Big surprise. 2. Libby probably lied, but they needed to PROVE IT. Judge made critical mistakes during the trial that undermined defense ability to establish reasonable doubt. Libby will win on appeal. Judge will resign.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80685Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:20:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80685stephanie, baltimore, mdI think that the verdict was correct, however, I am still waiting for the person who leaked the information to be brought up on charges of treason. I remember the President promising that whomever leaked the information would be prosecuted when the scandal broke despite the efforts of the White House, yet another broken promise. The lack of accountability in this administration borders on that enjoyed by a dictatorship. President Bush has stripped America of its very soul and I feel shamed. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80687Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:21:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80687Kate VanPatrick Fitzgerald is a courageous person, and so is Chris Matthews for keeping this issue at the forefront. So much of what happens between the Whitehouse doors is covered up through intimidation and veiled threats, finally we get a small victory for truth. Keep asking the same question, Chris: If Cheney got the Niger report, where is it????http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80689Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:21:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80689Greg-Providence RIIve been saying the Bush Adminstration should have been impeached a long time ago.If this verdict isnt further proof,what is? The war rush based on outright lies and deception is not just from Libby,it's from the entire White House. Imagine an act of treason pardoned in olny 2 years.It will happen if Bush and cheney remainhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80691Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:21:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80691Lee CThe bottom line: power and money. Libby will walk free, and in the long run, nothing will be done. The government will spin and do anything to make a wrong right. This shows the american voters that government is above the laws, when he gets pardoned by "our" ? government and president. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80693Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:21:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80693EMSDear Robert, Whatever else you may think, it wasn't the Press that found Libby guilty on 4 out of 5 counts. Please remember that it was the Republican Party that insisted during the Clinton Years that Clinton's lying about Lewinsky was an imperachable offense. If lying about sex is an impeachable act, how does lying about the outing of a covert, undercover CIA agent rank? As Fitzgerald said today, Plame's classified status was an unimpeachable fact. Your response ignores the facts of the case. Lying to FBI agents is a crime. Lying to a Grand Jury is a crime. Shouldn;t you be thrilled that the Justice system has adequately recognized those facts?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80699Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:22:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80699Paul - OmahaHow predictable - the press having a collective "orgasm" over this stupid story involving a republican. Who cares.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80701Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:22:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80701Erik, Kansas Chris Matthews is a loud mouth that like to slat his reporting to met his own political views. Report the facts as presented not the way you want them to appear.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80704Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:23:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80704Robert Omni, Washington DCThis a clear punch from the ultra Libs out there! Matthews, there was not this much bantor when the former President Clinton was IMPEACHED!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80706Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:23:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80706George A.P, Carrollton, TXLibby is lucky. Look at all the oppurtunity he has after the Presidential Pardon. A Run for the Senate from Connecticut , A News Analyst job at Fox News. I wish I was him. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80707Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:23:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80707Joseph F, Particle, IAKudos to Fitzgerald's masterful handling of the case. Will someone among the congressional Democrats strap on a pair of balls and follow-up with a formal investigation of the administration's lies that led us into this woeful, unnecessary and bungled adventure in Iraq? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80710Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:24:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80710Egbert McFishbiscuitCheney and Bush orchestrated this from the start and Libby is taking the fall until the pardon comes. Isn't it funny how the personal fortunes of the Cheney and Bush families have tripled since 2000 while the rest of us are made to wait on a stagnent market. Bush finally said in 11/06/06 "we are in Iraq to protect "OUR" natural resources." Libby was and is a pawn who will be treated well for falling on his sword. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80711Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:24:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80711Jim F, Darien, ILChris Matthews blog states: "I asked George Tennet, the CIA director, to explain why the vice president never got a report on a CIA fact-finding trip that was triggered by his inquiry. Tennet’s reply was 'Ask him!'” My Question to Chris is: In the interest of a fair and balanced report--Did You??? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80749Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:29:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80749Barrett Beshoar Montrose, COThe President, Vice President, and many others are guilty of treason; a jury has found them guilty and they have received their due process. Will this administration continue to mock the foundations of our legislative branch of government, or will they volunteer for full sentences and the death penalty?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80750Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:29:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80750Paul, Union City, NJSounds like treason to me. No way the American public would have supported the pre-emptive Iraqi invasion without being told Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction and/or strong ties to Bin Ladin. As Deep Throat said: You have to follow the money... US taxpayer's dollars used to tear up Afghanistan and Iraq, US taxpayer's dollars used to rebuild Iraq, meanwhile good business for Halliburton, EXXON, etc. We go from record surplus to record deficits. Meanwhile tax cuts on dividends. Meanwhile $2 and $3 a gallon gasoline (a very flat tax). The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. W has served his true class, his "base," very well!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80751Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:29:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80751Dan Roberts, Arlington, VAChris is a blow hard who speaks on behalf of the Democrat National Partyhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80752Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:29:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80752steve russell portland oregonIts time to really play hardball,corruption,scandal,depleted treasury, lives forever shattered. Impeachment and jail is the only answer to restore credibility.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80757Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:30:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80757Carl Boyanton, New Orleans, La.Its funny how when there is a republican president we have the same bull as when we have a democrat. The media tries to build case after case in the news. We never wait for the verdict because we have already tried them in the press. What do we need a judicial system for? Lets just have the producers and editors be the jury and since they already know the final sentence and release date we dont even have to go before a judge.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80760Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:30:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80760Donald F. Morey, Murphysboro, Illinois. In true perspective Scooter Libby is a very minor player in the debacle that is this administration and its lies. The true culprits are Bush and Cheney and no time should be lost in calling them to account. They alone are responsible for the tragic loss of our American soldiers, and for the corruption now being disclosed on every hand. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80761Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:30:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80761Jim walkerToo bad Scooter didn't have the foresight to take Valarie to bed - then it would be all about sex and perjury lies wouldn't matter!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80764Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:30:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80764AsadI agree with Robert. Republicans we elect SHOULD be allowed to lie to us. Clinton lied to us once and got away with it, so all Republicans should be excused if they ever lie to us.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80766Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:31:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80766Keith Jones, Lewisville, TXFor those who have said, and to those who still say that this case was about nothing, I say, this case is about everything that we as Americans should hold sacred. It was about truth and accountability in government and in life generally. Apparently, for many, these qualities are optional and that's disappointing. Furtermore, it helps me better understand how we have gotten so far off track.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80767Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:31:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80767J, San JoseIf Libby is convicted, why is Fitzgerald going after Armitrage and Novak who committed treason by doing the actualy exposure. Libby is an after effect. This is a political prosecution. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80769Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:31:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80769Christie Smith Hlwd. FloridaThere is a huge snowball rolling downhill, destroying the lives of so many. 3,000 of our soldiers have died. Up to a hundred thousand seriously wounded whose lives will never be the same and a staggering increase in the divorce rate among military personnel. It is not just the soldiers who pay the price. Spouses and parents now have to deal with the loss of the person they knew both physically and mentally prior to this war. Their children are also victims, developing fears and paranoid behavior from the stress of long abcenses and fear of loss of a beloved parent. They are the victims in the skyrocketing divorce rate among our military families. If the information we gleaned from the Libby trial is correct then it appears that this snowball started in the Vice President's office. When will there be an investigation and when will this snoball be stopped? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80773Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:32:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80773Donald F. Morey, Murphysboro, Illinois. In true perspective Scooter Libby is a very minor player in the debacle that is this administration and its lies. The true culprits are Bush and Cheney and no time should be lost in calling them to account. They alone are responsible for the tragic loss of our American soldiers, and for the corruption now being disclosed on every hand. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80774Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:32:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80774K. H.,Birmingham,ALIi's true! The most technologically advanced nation on the earth is populated by the worlds most ignorant! Don't even mention the name of TRUE patriots like George Washington. If we had not taken the war to the terrorists we would still be having 9/11's. It's a frightening thing to think about how most of America clamored for war after 9/11, and now that the going gets tough they tuck their tails and run. Perhaps they provoked us into this war because they new we wouldn't have the courage and conviction to see it through, and we would defeat ourselves. Quit whining and go and stick you head back in the sand. Soon a terrorist will end it all for you! And quit blaming everything on the only people with enough courage to stand up for what's right.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80776Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:32:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80776An American Who CaresActually there should be another Investigation, Why was Joe Wilson sent by the suggestion of His Wife by the CIA??? Sounds as if something was done by the Orginization to try and hurt The US, The Wilsons shouls also be on trial for TREASON!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80782Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:33:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80782Dan B, Palo Alto, CAThere are two types of politicians in washington: Those that have one Libby and those who have many. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80784Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:33:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80784Eugene McDaniels, Great Falls, MT.Thank you Bob from Milford, Some people have been screaming treason all along on this one. The administration not only didnt like the report from Wilson, they attacked him and his family. They could have just shelved the report since it didnt fit into their "plan" What should be done with govt officials who commit treason during a time of "war"?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80785Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:34:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80785Doris Lederman, New York, NYOne can only be amazed at the roots of corruption and dishonesty that go up to the very tippy-top of our government.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80787Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:34:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80787Donald PurnellI remember the repeated quote during the 2000 campaign that Cheney/Bush would bring "dignity back to the white house". Cheney's boy, Libby, is another player in falsely justifying a war that was conceived to make Cheney and friends record war industry and oil industry profits. The liars club. Very dignified. "You're doin a heck of a dignified job Brownie, Libby, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Powell, Bush, Gonzalez and the rest of the liars club. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80788Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:34:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80788Rob Malone, Charleston, SC I am sure they will pardon Libby that was the play right to just keep quite so they don't have to get into WMD or talking about the war on the witness stand. I just think they told him to keep quite and to stay loyal and everything will be alright. I am sure they have a house waiting for Libby in the Cayman Islands and they will all be down there when this is over getting sun tans or in Cheney’s case getting sunburned.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80790Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:35:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80790kitty stailey,skokie, illi hope he is on his way to jail right now.. why do we bother with a very expensive trial that the tax payers pay for and then let these criminals out during appeals.. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80794Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:35:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80794JEFFREY J ZOLNIKI AM THROWING IN MY GOP CARD AND MAKE MY FOREFATHER'S ROLL IN THEIR GRAVE'S.I AM ASHAMED OF THIS PRESIDENT AND STAFF,ALSO FOR VOTING FOR THEM.GOD FORGIVE ME....http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80795Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:35:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80795Morel, Columbus, GAI keep hearing the "so what" montra from conservatives. Had the same things transpired under a democratic president -- (1) using known questionable intel and snitches(curveball) to start a war, (2) question peoples patriotism for disagreeing, (3) say one thing to the American people then having reports leaked that say the exact opposite, (4) hiding the flag drapped coffins so we don't see the true cost of war, and (5) a media not willing to ask questions because they did not want to be seen as unpatriotic, republicans would be asking for public firing squads. In outing Plame they not only destroy Iraqi intel, but also Iranian intel, since she worked in both.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80796Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:35:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80796JFPI am pleased with the verdict, though I too believe treason should be one of the charges. This administration has continued to stonewall the truth, hoping that we don't realiize that we are "in a dance with the devil of our own design"....Bush.....and take steps to charge all involved and get the hell out of Iraq.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80799Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:35:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80799Rob Malone, Charleston, SC I am sure they will pardon Libby that was the play right to just keep quite so they don't have to get into WMD or talking about the war on the witness stand. I just think they told him to keep quite and to stay loyal and everything will be alright. I am sure they have a house waiting for him in the Cayman Islands and they will all be down there when is over getting sun tans or in Cheney’s case getting sunburned.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80802Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:36:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80802JEFFREY J ZOLNIK FT WAYNE INDIANAI AM THROWING IN MY GOP CARD AND MAKE MY FOREFATHER'S ROLL IN THEIR GRAVE'S.I AM ASHAMED OF THIS PRESIDENT AND STAFF,ALSO FOR VOTING FOR THEM.GOD FORGIVE ME....http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80803Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:36:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80803Rob Malone, Charleston, SC I am sure they will pardon Libby that was the play right to just keep quite so they don't have to get into WMD or talking about the war on the witness stand. I just think they told him to keep quite and to stay loyal and everything will be alright. I am sure they have a house waiting for him in the Cayman Islands and they will all be down there when this is over getting sun tans or in Cheney’s case getting sunburned.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80805Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:36:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80805Eric Stoegbauer - Valparaiso, IndianaIt makes me hopeful to see people weighing-in so passionately regarding the facts of this case, which has very publicly implicated the highest levels of our federal government. Whether the opinions expressed are truly informed, or even if they are gut reactions based on common sense principles, they all speak to an increasing attitude of involvement with the day-to-day of government in this country. I am doubly proud to see comments from my own hometown of Janesville, WI! The apathy of the American people is just as much to blame as the administration, the media, liberals and conservatives. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80806Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:36:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80806JFP - Austin, TexasI am pleased with the verdict, though I too believe treason should be one of the charges. This administration has continued to stonewall the truth, hoping that we don't realiize that we are "in a dance with the devil of our own design"....Bush.....and take steps to charge all involved and get the hell out of Iraq.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80809Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:37:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80809Ed, Pensacola, FLAl-Quaeda, the Taliban and Iran's clerics have more honor and credibility than the fascists in the current administration. For 22 years I wore a uniform to 'support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic." Now I know who the domestic enemies are.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80811Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:37:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80811Rob Malone, Charleston, SC I am sure they will pardon Libby that was the play right to just keep quite so they don't have to get into WMD or talking about the war on the witness stand. I just think they told him to keep quite and to stay loyal and everything will be alright. I am sure they have a house waiting for Libby in the Cayman Islands and they will all be down there when this is over getting sun tans or in Cheney’s case getting sunburned.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80822Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:38:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80822Greg M, Detroit, MILibby has no need to fear: just before the midnight hour in mid January 2009, Mr, Libby will receive his presedential pardon, and that will be that.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80823Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:38:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80823larry parker ,north judson, in.Thank you, Patrick Fitzgerald... The more the truth becomes evident the more we as a people become acceptable. When you live in suspicion and deceit you trust no one, but a small step for decency has arrived.Thanks again,MR. Fitzgeraldhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80827Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:39:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80827Beth, Oklahoma City, Okla.We have a "gang" in the White House, and they need to be held accountable. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80830Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:40:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80830Bruce - New JerseyThis is a small victory. If lying about a sexuale incounter is impeachable What is lying to get us in a war? I am still amazed that only a very few people are calling for investigation of how we got into this mess. The Men & Women who put their lives on the line serving this country deserve far better from their leaders. This is not a red or blue issue it is a moral one. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80833Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:40:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80833Keith Jones, Lewsiville, TXFor American Who Cares, at least have the courage to identify yourself, don't worry, the NSA already knows your ID.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80839Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:41:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80839Phil MorrillMr. Mathews, He may have said “ASK HIM!” to you, but he told everyone else that President and the VP were never briefed on the CIA’s independent investigation of the British Intelligence. “Tenet also said top administration officials -- including Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney -- were never briefed on the CIA's skepticism about the uranium purchase allegations. Nor did he tell members of Congress during briefings on Iraq last fall.” http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/sprj.irq.wmdspeech/index.html Did you "ASK HIM" why he didn't brief congress on this issue? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80840Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:41:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80840Dick JamesLibby was never going to get a fair trial in Washington. Fitzgerald needs to pack it in, he has made millions of dollars for nothing. Everyone lies in politics and most of all Chris. I hope Bush pardons him. This jury knew all along they were going to return a guilty verdict and just drug it out for the attention and so they wouldn't be accused of rushing to a verdict.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80841Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:41:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80841Ibrahim sesayLibby will eventually be pardoned by President Bush. Meanwhile, this horrific war that was unleashed under false assertions will grind on. Bush and Cheney will flick this verdict as an annoying little bug, scare us yet again with the 9-11 boogeyman and keep our men and women right there in Iraq. This war will only end when the news media stop self-censoring reports from Iraq and let the american people see and understand the true horrorsof this war. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80847Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:43:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80847Josh, Nashville TNValerie Plame is not a Secret Agent! She is a analyst...and why should anyone be convicted of saying she works for the CIA and she convinced them to send her husband over to Niger to ask them politely if they have been selling uranium to the Iraqis? Didn't Vanity Fair do a piece on her and her husband a year before all of this happened? I believe that they reported then that she worked for the CIA...woops did Vanitie Fair out her??? This verdict is crazy and all of the "he said" is not enough to make the verdict stick.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80851Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:44:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80851Mel S, Houston, TexasI personal still have faith that the American people will seek justice and prosecute the “real” criminals in this case. It might take a while for non-disputable facts to come to the surface, however they will eventually. After this administration leaves office I predict that many republicans, and right-winged media outlets will distance them selves from “the mess”, leaving Bush, Cheney and the rest of the gang behind and unprotected. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80854Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:44:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80854Burt B. Tyngsboro,MAHope they go after Cheney now. Kudos to Fitzgerald. The administration lied to the American people in order to get us involved in Iraq. Someone should be tried for treason in outing a CIA operative.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80856Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:46:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80856Steven Ysais, Azusa, CAI don't understand how anyone can fault Joe Wilson or Valerie Plame. Joe Wilson's editorial could have saved lives and protected American soldier's. Isn't that what his job was supposed to do? By discrediting him, and outing his wife, the machinations of the Bush administration disregarded what he had to say, which was the truth! Iraq did not try to buy enriched yellowcake from Niger, end of story. I am glad to see good, decent American citizens performing their civic duties as jurors. I hope that no one calls them un-American and politically motivated.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80865Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:48:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80865R HINCHTHIS IS JUST A SMALL VICTORY FOR VALERIE PLAME, JOE WILSON, THE JOURNALIST AND FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE IN IRAQ. IT IS TIME TO GO AFTER THE REAL CRIMINALS WHO GOT US INTO THIS WAR FOR NO REASON. IM DAM MAD BECAUSE THEY LIED!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80866Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:48:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80866Ann JacksonCongrats, Chris! Scooter Libby guilty of the Iraq War? Since this has been your crusade every night how about now trying to answer the following: How much money was wasted by Patrick Fitzgerald? He knew who leaked the name early in the investigation. (Richard Armitage) Nobody cares about him. And what is Richard Armitage doing now? Any legal problems or book deals? Don't forget the Wilson's, how have they profited? And Scooter Libby, was he found guilty of what he was actually charged with or just guilty because of Bush hatred? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80871Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:50:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80871Navin, Madison, WIGOP outs CIA agents and treats out veterans like dirt. What happend to the GOP that put its loyalty to country before corporations? Makes me sick that VP was involved in a treason. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80872Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:50:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80872J Nazzaro, Memphis, TN“The results are actually sad,” he added. “It’s sad that we had a situation where a high level official person who worked in the office of the vice president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did.” It is even more sad that we had a President in the Oval Office that also "obstructed justice and lied under oath" but never even went to trial. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80884Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:51:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80884Matt Jarvis, Alexandria, VirginiaChris, never underestimate the American predilection to conveniently miss the point. I empathize with how painful it is to watch.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80885Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:51:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80885Grayce Gadson, Los Angeles, CAThere is a sense of outrage all over American when truth is finally revealed. But the Bush SS keeps the dampers on the full press coverage. Why doesn't anyone talk about mysterious plane crashes, disappearances, and voter shock troops? We will get tired enough and we will take back America. Cheney must stand trial. And I want a full investigation of the plane crashes of Brown, Carnahan, and Wellstone, and Congressional hearings on them.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80887Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:52:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80887Mudhole Mom, CAThe Dixie Chicks had it right way back when! They at least had the guts to tell it like it is....shame on this administration for being the cause of the thousands of lies being lost in an unjust war; both Iraqui's and U.S. In the next election, don't look to the guy who is someone you would like to BBQ with, vote for the guy who has a brain!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80888Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:52:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80888Hershel Parker, Morro Bay, CaliforniaTears sprang into my eyes when I heard Fitzgerald speak the words "lying" and "falsehood" this morning. He really believes there is something called "Truth," and that it is different from "Spin."http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80890Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:52:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80890Dade Cariaga, Portland, ORJosh, from Nashville, displays the typical conservative misunderstanding of the situation. Read the indictment, Josh. The charges are not that Valerie Plame was "outed," and no one was convicted of "outing" her. Scooter Libby was tried for lying to federal investigators and a grand jury. Those are crimes in and of themselves. Lastly, my new motto: "Sing, Scooter! Sing!"http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80894Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:54:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80894Philip H., Fort Collins, COI'm all about Karma - but something about this whole war and administration that makes me want to see these men dragged through the city streets of America and hung in a public square. America has been hi-jacked and hoodwinked by these neo-conservatives and it's time to pay the piper. There's nothing un-patriotic about wanting justice to be served.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80895Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:54:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80895W. GoreThis is a direct conviction of Chaney and his underling--George W.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80902Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:55:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80902College Station, TXWe must support our President no matter what. He is a great leader that knows a lot more than we do about what is going on in the world and how to save us from 9/11 and the muslims. I wish I could vote for Dick Cheney in 08http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80904Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:55:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80904jamesBush and Cheney have blood on their fingers. They are responsible for slauthering, torturing people, for ruining the US's image abroad and for making the world and the american people much less safe than they were before. For those who are for those two guys, think again when your kid gets asthma because of the higherlimits on air polution, or if you get cancer because of the higher aspestus levels, or when you have to work until you're 80 because of the national dept or maybe your kid ships off to Iraq. Dear Republican I invite you to salute your president while you work more but earn less, while rich people like me get a tax cut while you have to work you butt off... dear republican I really suggest to keep saluting and admiring your president while 200 Trillion of your money, your kids money is shipped out to a country far far away, with no money ever coming back and I salute you who supports this president because you think that is the greatest thing that has ever happened to you, your family and your kids.. go ahead and keep doing it, because rich people like will make even more money thanks to YOU.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80906Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:56:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80906Patrick Boegel, Albany NYReading the responses here is like watching the mob scene in Springfield after the aliens takeover in the 1996 election parody on The Simpsons. All this nonsense over who said what about somebody who not even in active field duty. You people are comical, on to the next bungling hogwash administration. I am sure the Democrats will claim moral and intellectual superiority in the Whitehouse and the Republicans with whine about the media. You are all tools in a useless shed.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80910Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:56:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80910David Carstensen, Honeoye, NYVote Barack Obama in 2008 with Wes Clark as the VP, we need someone that can unite, not divide!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80912Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:57:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80912Tom, GermanyIf lying about sex is an impeachable offense, then lying about outing a covert agent is one as well, only far more damaging to America. But both pale in comparison to lying about reasons to invade a sovereign nation (false pretense), unprovoked, and therefore wasting precious lives & resources. No matter how patriotic these clowns in this admistration think they are, they are doing incredible damage to our nation, and our nation's reputation. There are far more reasons to impeach in 2007, than there were in 1999!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80915Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:57:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80915W. GoreThis is a direct conviction of Chaney and his underling--George W.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80917Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:58:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80917TkFenton, Central TexasSadly enough… what’s the point. Does any sane person actually believe “Scooter” will set one foot in prison? The moment Scooter exhausts all appeal attempts, those two criminals in the White House will pardon him. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80919Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:58:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80919Liz Haren, New York CityYou're the idiots who needed lies told to you. I completely understood why we went to Iraq, because we needed a place to fight Al Qaeda that WASN'T the US but was a place we understood. Those extremist islamic egos couldn't sit by while the US was in Iraq, they would have to come over the border to fight the great "satan" and that is exactly what they did. Getting Sadam was just icing on the cake. I'm so sick of people who don't get this war on terror. You'll only get it when the terrorists are heading down your street. You idiots are going to get us all killed.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80923Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:59:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80923James T ShortMaybe the next step should be to check for "misdemeanors and high crimes" which are impeachable offenses when it comes to the vice president and the president. I recall how the republicans were so rabid on impeaching President Clinton and what he did didn't cost thousands of lives not to mention the thousands of injuries and hundreds of billions of dollars in "war" costs.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80925Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:00:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80925Bud Young Corinth, MississippiLaws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but the wasps and hornets break through. (SWIFT) (1667-1745)http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80926Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:00:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80926windrider, Columbus OHKevin R: "Sandy Berger is the one who should be going to jail." The Berger case has NOTHING to do with the Libby case. The Bush administration opted to let Berger plead and walk. Put the blame where it belongs. As for why Wilson was sent, in response to Cheney's office once again leaning on the CIA to find him some evidence he could use to sell the war, well Wilson is a former ambassador with extensive contacts in Africa, including Niger, and a knowledge of the uranium mining and trading processes. He was sent because he was frikkin' qualified...unlike so many political hacks this administration has appointed and protected. And the larger question still remains: if Cheney did lean on the CIA to look into the matter of whether Hussein was trying to get uranium from Niger, why didn't he or one of his minions follow up and find out what the answer was? Well, maybe because he already knew it was a bogus allegation based on clearly forged documents that were delibered to Stephen Hadley, another of his minions, instead of being delivered to the intelligence community for evaluation. Wilson NEVER alleged that Cheney or his office sent him to Niger. That's a red herring created by Cheney and Libby to justify outing Plame. It's amazing how many continue to worship Bush and Cheney, no matter how much harm they keep doing to this country and others, no matter how many times they lie about life and death matters. So I guess it's not surprising that Libby will still have his defenders making excuses for him. I do feel sorry for him; he's just another flunky who was sacrificed to protect the White House, without a moment's hesitation or twinge of conscience. He's not the first and he won't be the last 'cause they still got two more years to lie us into a war with Iran, continue screwing up in Iraq and Afghanistan, let the Gulf State cities rot (as long as they're not governed by Republications, that is) and throw more minions under the train to take the blame. Then pardons all around.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80941Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:03:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80941Wayne S, Los Angeles, CAJust another confirmation of the supreme embarrassment running this country. Won't anyone do something to bring them to justice? They just do whatever they like, with impunity. In our lifetimes, we've never seen the likes of such an administration. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80965Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:10:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80965Vivian, McLean VAI wish "Libby" would rot in jail. As for a Presidential pardon - NO WAY! He committed a crime - so serve the time! How about an impeachment for the Vice President>http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80969Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:11:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80969Meg - Rochester, NYThis verdict is sheer confirmation of everything the American public already knew - and probably knew before we even went into Iraq when everyone was watching the State of the Union saying "what...?" The sad thing is that we let them sell this fabrication to us. Even sadder they've sacrificed thousands of lives with a good marketing campaign. It's time Americans learn to speak up a little sooner, and a lot louder. It's not only our right, it's our responsibility. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80970Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:11:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80970Steve FarnsworthThat overweight moron Armitage and the senile reporter Novak should be the next ones put on trial. What gave them the right to reveal any of the details of any CIA operations or employees?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80981Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:13:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80981Elliott Seiden, Bethesda, MD The real joke here is that anyone took Wilson's report seriously. What did he do? He goes to Niger for a few days, chats up a few old friends from his days in the diplomatic corps, and comes back with a report that Niger was not selling yellow cake to Sadam. Maybe, but how could he know? UN inspectors never discovered the extent of Sadam's nuclear program running up to the first Gulf war, and Iraq is one third the land mass of Niger. Wilson is a joke, and Libby and Cheney were foolish for caring what he said.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80986Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:15:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80986Mel S, Houston, TexasReading some of the posts above I can see that a few of us are still scared. It was fear that made this entire thing work in the first place, I guess some people still walk around with their eyes closed. The war on terror, give me a freakin’ break! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80995Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:18:00 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80995Rick D- Pittsburgh PaIn response to robert from sacremento who said this was a waste of time and money, and the democrats should be ashamed of themselves. I wonder if he thought the republicans and ken starr wasted our money and should be ashamed. Hey robert whats worse, lying about cheating on your wife, or lying to the american people so they can take us into war. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#80996Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:18:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:80996Fred, Planet EarthNote to Chris Matthews and his "fans": Richard Armitage admitted to leaking Plame to Novak, long before Libby was ever indicted. I noticed most of you seem to miss that point.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81002Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:19:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81002stan bradley. queens nywhy is the jury soft on that bastard? Just because he was working for bigger fish doesn't make him innocent. He should be tried for treason imho.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81010Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:21:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81010Kevin Dallas, TXI'm confused on this one. Did Bill Clinton not prove to the world, that lying under oath is totally irrelevant. Moreover, perjury is usually caused by an over zealous special investigator (i.e. Kenneth Star, Patrick Fitzgerald). I know you liberals are up in arms thinking that Clinton's lies did not lead to a war! You're right! They led to 9/11. While Billy was staining dresses, Osama had already began his plan on the World Trade Center!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81015Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:22:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81015Scott, Henderson NevadaI will terminate my support for Bush if he does not pardon Mr. Libby. The left wants to criminalize those who do not agree with them. Scary.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81033Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:27:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81033M. BurkeIt's too late for this country. So much damage has been done by this administration I doubt we will ever recover. We no longer have a democracy, we have King George and his court jester- Cheney. I have never in my life seen such so-called human beings who have no feelings for their countrymen and are nothing but cold and calculated monstors. We have lost all our friends in the world , even the Brits wised up and are pulling out of Iraq. Impeachemt is too good for these guys, they are just as bad, if not worse than Sadaam himself, at least he didn't pretend to be anything but what he was. The Bushs' and all their cronies will go down in history as ruthless, heartless criminals who brought down what was once a great country. I weep for the old USA. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81045Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:29:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81045Geri Gendry, Upland, CABush & Cheney just keep on "enhancing" their legacies! It's enough having them in the present, let alone reading or hearing about their legacies in the future. At the least they should be very, very thin books! I know we Dems don't want to look like the Ken Starr crowd or the congress of that time, but impeachment looks better and better all of the time.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81047Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:30:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81047AGM, Philadelphia, PAKudos to K.H. Birmingham,AL and to AN AMERICAN WHO CARES. I'm a disabled vet with service in Korea. I'll stand with you in protesting these politically motivated efforts to weaken our Nation. The terrorists sense our lack of resolve. Patriots like Scooter Libby will pay the price for our lack of diligence and perseverance. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81048Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:30:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81048Fed Up American, NY NYWell well, here we go again....another lap dog that keeps blaming dems for republicans thinking that they are above the law...I hope this verdict shows this idotic administration that we the american people will not listen to the bull caca coming out of their mouths anymore...too many of us are loosing brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, nieces, nephew AND MOTHERS AND FATHERS. The people in this country, especially those that think the idiot in the oval office can't do no wrong.....how can someone who blunders in so much of his speeches be trusted? and they called Bill a pothead! He sounds like he's sipping too much of that southern whiskey. LET THIS BE AN EYE OPENER MR. PRESIDENT!!! BE SMART FOR ONCE AND NOT PARDON LIBBY. REMEMBER AMERICANS HAVE LONG MEMORIES..HOPE YOUR BROTHER DOESN'T PLAN TO RUN FOR ANY MORE PUBLIC OFFICES....BECAUSE YOUR ACTIONS WILL DOG HIM AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES....LEAVE THE PEOPLE OILS ALONE!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81051Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:30:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81051Tom, GermanyThe main reason I feel there will be no W impeachment is that the Democrats are far too polite and cordial. Now if only they had the vicious, vindictive, cruel, and bombastic nature of....say...Rush, or Ann, or Don, or Dick, or Karl (not W, he's just a fool), then perhaps justice would be done. Sadly, they don't have these savage and predatory traits. I also applaud them for not having them and for being decent humans. But the species doesn't stand a chance when the heinous of this world (on all sides) are allowed to run roughshod over the rest of us. Niceness will never win and that is deplorable. (God, or whatever, help us!).http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81053Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:31:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81053chris, McAllen, TexasFinaly, the truth sees the light of day through the the thick fog of the Bush/Cheney administration's lies. We all need to insist that the light keeps shining. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81055Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:31:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81055Bill Bowie, Saco, MaineNow that Scooter has been convicted ,the only thing I hope is that Bush and Cheney are impeached before they get a chance to pardon him.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81072Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:37:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81072Carole lange esleyPerjury by anyone, whether durrng a depositiion (Bill Clinton) or to a Grand Jury (Scooter Libby) chips away at the cornerstone of our system of justice and threatens our freedoms. BUT to equate Clinton's sex scandal perjury and the Libby perjury during the investigation of the CIA leak is beyond my comrehension. Clinton's lie did not involve national security; Libby's did. Not only does it appear he put a CIA agent at risk but his motives were to hamper a national security investigation and protect the Vice President and President. His perjury reminded us all that our system of governament and our freedom depends upon the trust we have in the people who are privileged to do business on our behalf. He didn't place service to the Government's clients (citizens/profit) higher than service to an administration (employees/overhead). But, why am I not surprized... this administration has no regard for truth or justice. Sad, Sad, Sad! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81090Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:42:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81090Ricky Faella Wayne OK.I agree with blogger John from San Francisco Ca. The Republican administration is responsible for the war. They were just doing what they always do, go after the money, he is right it's all about coperations and money, I wonder like all Americans do about what happend to the 360 Tons of 100 dollar bills sent in cash to Iraq ? Does anyone remember "I guess the Iraq government dosn't have good bookkeeping" .. And John, we are awake believe me. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81092Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:43:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81092Fed Up American NY NYTo Paul in Omaha.....was this your same lackluster response when your republicans was crucifying a man for lying to his wife about having sex with another woman? How is it that the idiot and lapdogs people like you put to rule this nation, puts other people's life at risk, is no big deal for you? You know it's people like you we should blame for this unholy war for oil. You tell that to the mothers who have to bury their sons and daughters. I have a better idea why don't the whole lot of you including your chosen leader go fight your own damn war!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81105Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:47:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81105Billy Davis Sparta, Ky. 41086For those who question ambassator Wilsons qualifications for the Niger assignment. I suggest they do a back ground check on his prior assignmentshttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81106Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:47:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81106Calif.The Libby conviction only emphasizes the extent of corruption and incompetence surrounding the current administration's governance. Recalling the several minutes the President first heard that the USA was under attack on 9/11, the best this "commander n chief" could do was sit there and read an elementary school book, what a man! What was of interest to me was that, he didn't even look surprised when he got the news. What does that tell you. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81112Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:48:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81112Mel S, Houston, TexasScott, Henderson Nevada: "The left wants to criminalize those who do not agree with them. Scary." Uhmmm...are you 12?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81120Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:51:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81120Billy Davis Sparta, Ky. 41086For those who question ambassator Wilsons qualifications for the Niger assignment. I suggest they do a back ground check on his prior assignmentshttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81127Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:54:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81127P. H.Libby is but a pawn, a scapegoat, loyal robot in the trenches. His imprisonment would equate to a death of a soldier on the battlefield.....a good person simply wasted. Get real! Go where the true guilt lies in bed with big business, military marionettes! The big boys manipulating the dance strings. Maybe they are the ones who should have danced at the Saddam party? Afterall, Christ had 2 criminals with him on Calvary! Clinton's impeachment proceedings were but childhood misdemeanors by comparison to DC crimes of current day! Time to overturn this upturned, thwarted sense of values; get back to reality. Can we wait 2 more years? Mr. Truman, we need you again. NOW! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81129Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:54:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81129Benjamin Purser, Royal Oak, MIThe Libby trial confirmed what we always knew, the administration will go all out to discredit their critics. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81132Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:54:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81132Carmen Cameron, Louisville, KYAmerica was tricked into a needless, hurtful war by an Administration that consistently believes that the end justifies ANY means. How many have died or been maimed for life or lost everything they had in life directly because of this amoral-under-the-guise-of-patriotic cadre's misguided and arrogant manipulations of the truth??? I just wish the World Court would try Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice for their collective AND OBVIOUS crimes against all humanity! BUT, even if there is never a trial in a court of law, history WILL convict them all - just as the court of world opinion already HAS.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81153Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:01:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81153Robert Brooks, Memphis, TennesseeScooter doesn't need to do all that time himself. He needs to make sure Dick Cheney does some of it for him.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81160Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:04:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81160Robert OdellI am a Canadian and of course subject to many Americans believing that my opinion isn't worth consideration. That said. America is a great country and the vast majority of Americans are fine upstanding people. One only has to revide many of the replys in response to Chris's comments to see this. I do believe however that the Bush administration has done considerable harm to Americas image internationaly and Mr. Libby has been made a scapegoat for a Vice President who has singlehandly brought America's image to a low point. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81170Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:07:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81170Mel, Virginia BeachIt is amazing that the democrats want to ask for accountability now. Where were those same calls when Clinton sold our secrets to CHINA. Does WHITEWATER ring a bell. This call for action is just revenge. I agree we should not be in this war, but call a spade a spade. Quit being hypocritical. Unfortunately MOST of our politicans are crooked. Utopia would be a political system FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOLPE, not the corporations and the rich.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81196Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:15:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81196HollyChris- It doesn't matter if Cheney got a report or not, he would not have believed it anyway. He is STILL saying that the intellegence showed that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger. What you really need to be asking now is, When did the president sign a resolution giving Cheney authorization to declassify info and WHY did he need to do that?? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81207Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:18:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81207Phyllis Lang,Othello Wash.Justice has been served with the Libby conviction.It wouldn't surprise me if Bush doesn't give him a pardon.Libby I feel was the fall guy for the Bush administration,it's sad that the other officials that were implemented in this scandal will get away with it.I think the jury did an excellant job in it's verdict.If this was an individual that had committed the crime that wasn't in the government,they would get the full 30 years.It's going to be interesting to see how much time Libby will actually spend in Prison.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81210Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:19:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81210Marina Garcia Gelpe, Ithaca, New YorkImpeach Cheney, impeach Bush. This is the most corrupt administration in the history of this country. Who are you idiots who are saying that we had to go to Iraq to fight terrorists? Why don't you educate yourselves? Why don't you read something about the Middle East and the history of the Bush family, the unethical practices of Cheney and Rumsfeld? Too bad closed minds don't come with closed mouths. Even Libby's own defense (Libby, who by the way wrote a erotic novel about child prostitution in 1903 Japan -there's your family values administration-) said that Libby took the fall for Carl Rove. His own defense said that! From Walter Reed to Katrina to Iraq to Libby--these guys are rotten to the core, and the buck should stop with bush/cheney (who, by the way, is French, and he should pronounce his name Sha-nay)-apologies to the French people. Impeach bush-shanay!!!Marina Garcia Gelpehttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81223Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:21:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81223Carole ScarboroughChris, I am so pleased with this verdict! I am even more happy that Tim Russert's name has been cleared. I think it is despicable the way his integrity was being called into question. I hope this verdict will send a message loud and clear. Truth is not everything it is the only thing.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81239Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:26:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81239W. Dean Omaha, NEHow the democrats on this site can cry to herald Chris Matthews as a hero when Sandy Berger...(remember clinton)...is not in jail for the rest of his life and our Pres forgot his morals and ethics in his own office of the White House is laughable...Please bring me your candidate with some integrity and we will talk...until then...PLEEASE...give me a break....http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81245Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:27:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81245D. GenesPatrick Fitzgerald is a true patriot. I am so proud that my country has honest, dedicated lawyers like him, who truly believe in the ideals enshrined in our constitution. This trial is the closest that we will get towards indicting the miserable purveyors of this foolish war, the cost for which far exceeds the thousands of injured and dead servicemen in the long-term global instability it has wrought and the consequences to the safety of our citizens. Not to forget the horrendous death and destruction it brought to the people of Iraq. The actions of Cheney and his lick-spittle subordinate, and Armitage and Rove and the White House media elite WAS treasonous. By exposing Ms. Plame, they endangered all of her foreign contacts during her service, and all those who dealt with her cover company. A firing squad would be too good for these swaggering, incompetent, gossiping imbeciles! Starting with Cheney and going down to Armitage, Libby, Rove, Fleischer and Novak, they need to be metaphorically hung, drawn and quartered for their treasonous acts to the Republic!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81254Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:29:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81254Nellie BBill and Hillary have lied under oath... so whats the big deal???? Who cares if he lied maybe Chris will ask Hillary where those imfamous billing records are? Right Chris.. you will do that in between your "Groveling" to MRs. Jesus Christ won't ya?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81257Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:30:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81257JohnDoe, Bklyn, NYGuilty Guilty Guilty Guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Iraq, Katrina, Abu Ghrabib, Torture, rendition, Gitmo, Dubai Ports, Habeus Corpus, NSA spying, Cronies, halliburton, kbr, BLACKWATER, K-Street, Abramoff, Cunningham, Yoo, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney Scooter Libby lies, lies, lies, lies.....WALTER REED:Last Straw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .........................tips of the iceberg only one recourse.... IMPEACH THEM NOW! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81264Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:32:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81264T. Hill, Carrollton, TexasChris, of course it was the Vice President’s inquiry that triggered the CIA trip but it wasn't the VP that sent Wilson, it was his wife.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81268Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:33:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81268Vic, Mandeville, LAThis is without a doubt an act of treason. A young woman life was placed in jeopardy because of few renegade politico's. It makes you proud to be an American.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81269Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:33:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81269Ernesto Juarez, Los Gatos CAAs for Cheney? Where there's smoke, there's fire! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81271Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:34:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81271robert yardley, paChenney stated that he has a job to do.Idont think he realises that he works for the people.The people voted in the election that we want our troops home. Bobhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81273Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:35:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81273rich, salem, nhafter reading several 'posts', I am still amazed that the republican apologist are still hung up on the Clinton years when that was well over six years ago...and the difference between Clinton admin. and the Bush admin. is that Clinton did lie about personal transgressions where only his integrity got damaged whereas George Bush's lies are directly associated to over 3000 brave young americans who lost their lives,,and tell me for what? Chris Matthews whatever people say, keep up the great work! thank youhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81275Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:35:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81275Shelley, DenverThe timing of Cheney's "clot" right before the verdict seems a bit too convenient. Won't surprise me if next week his condition is "worse than thought." Perhaps in a couple weeks he'll be hospitalized and a resignation for "health reasons" will soon follow. Scooter's threat of "flipping" on his old boss will be greatly diminished, as going after a sick old man who is no longer in office will just seem like a waste of government resources and abuse of prosecutorial powers. And it just so happens that the timing of a VP resignation also bodes well for the GOP retaining executive power - why not have Bush hand-pick Brownback, Romney or even his brother and get a leg up on the next presidential election? Something is being wagged here and unfortunately Americans are the collective dog. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81278Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:36:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81278Pat,Big Lake, MNAny way you look at it, 'We the People' elect these morons-- time after time after time-and nothing changes except the degree and level of lies,sanctimony and thievery. If you want someone to blame ....look in the mirror. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81279Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:37:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81279M. Sequim, WAWe all knew what the outcome would be. The persons really responsible are "tip toeing thru the tulips" at present.....but, what goes around comes around!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81294Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:39:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81294Carole ScarboroughAnother thought! Some have called Chris Matthews a loud mouth. Seems to me he is in pretty good company. Who was it that said yelled. "Give me liberty or give me death!" Good job Chris!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81299Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:40:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81299Thembi, GaBesides the fact that Libby lied and deserved to be found guilty, he tried to make Tim Russert look bad and like a liar. Bush Adminstration needs to think twice before lying on the great men of MSNBC/NBC; Chris, Joe, Keith, Tucker, Tim, Brian, and everyone else is great and just tells the truth. Bush is just stupid enough to attempt to pardon Libby the day after he's out of office....Doh!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81303Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:43:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81303C A, Tuscaloosa, ALI can't understand why you people are so upset about this case whether for the conviction, opposed to the conviction, republican, democrat or independent. When are you people going to grow up and understand the inherent nature of a process that tries to take care of, and please, a large number of people (what we call America's political process). It is dirty, back-stabbing, cheating, lying, cover-ups and scapegoating. It has been this way since the dawn of man and will continue to be this way no matter if under a republican administration or a democratic administratrion. And whose fault is it. Not the persons you elect to these offices, but YOU. What do you expect from people in which you place so much power. Power corrupts. You people don't want honesty. An honest person would never make it to such levels of power. They would have to tell you things that some of you don't want to hear and you would then throw them out on their ear. And then they would have to do some things you others don't want them to do, and you would throw them out on their ear. You all have your own pent up interests and expectations that are different from the interests and expectations of others, but yet you want those in power to toe the line to only your interests and expectations. How can a person or a group of persons serve and satsify all of you. It is impossible. Personally, I think anyone wishing to take on a high office is nuts. And if they were not worn out, gray, wrinkled and crazy before taking office they sure are after having served. I mean my God, they had to try and take care of and please all of you children, and worry which of you wanted jelly with their peanut butter and which of you did not. Justice may have been served and it may not have been served in the Libby case. But which of you really has the right and the all-knowing power to make that determination? Frankly, I feel sorry for Libby. It is you people that placed him and this administration, and the prior administration, and administrations before that, in no-win positions. Hell, some of you probably won't like how the next administration ties its shoes. And to try and please all of you they will lie and cheat and try different shoe tying methods. Lets just hope they get their shoe tying methods down so they are tying their shoes according to your expectations when in front of you. And as for those leaving elected office. They need not worry about their legacy. For our young people, many of whom today can't even name the first President, won't be able to recall who was in office when. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81304Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:43:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81304Bobby IngallsJust watching Libby, with that stupid smirk on his face, walking into the courthouse, made my blood boil. The fact that 75% of the blogs I've read realize that Mr. Bush will ultimatly pardon this loser, leads me to believe that most of us think this administration is @#%&-up. If only we could do something about it. "Superman, where are you!?" http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81312Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:46:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81312Betty Duncan, Placerville, CA. I am ashamed of this administration. Libby was only doing Bush and Cheney's bidding. President Bush and Dick Cheney are the ones responisible for taking this country to war based on lies. If things are done right President G. W. Bush and Dick Cheney will be impeached. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81346Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:56:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81346Elmer Hertel, Louisville, KYTo those who are saying the American people clamored for war on 9/12 but don't have the stomach for it now that things are going badly, I say "WAKE UP". I was never so proud as on 10/5/01 when Dubya attacked Al Quida in Afghanistan. THOSE are the people that attacked our country. As much as the Bush administration tried to distort the facts, even they couldn't place any blame for 9/11 on Iraq. Bush has done more to harm this country than Sadam could do in two lifetimes. The sad truth is, the American people have only themselves to blame. The terrorists didn't elect Bush.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81349Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:57:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81349Bill LoganIf the Democrates don't go after this administration for all the lies, they should go home and let someone else newly elected finish the job---finish this administration once and for all. I want blood (blue-blood. Lets call for impeachment at all levels. This country can do just fine without Bush or Cheney. Go get'm.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81360Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:58:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81360JOHN, DOYLESTOWN, PA.IT SADDENS ME TO SEE WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY. THEY ARE NOT COMPETANT TO LEAD AND CARE NOT ABOUT THE SACRIFICE OF THE PEOPLE THEY PUT IN HARMS WAY, WHETHER IT'S AN INTELLIGENCE AGENT OR A SOLDIER IN THE FIELD. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81364Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:00:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81364Brian Merritt, Canada.This administration has yet to take any blame for all of its failures. Like using faulty intel leading to the Iraq war, lack of preparedness for Katrina, the $12 billion boondoggle in the so-called rebuilding of Iraq, the squalid conditions experienced by injured soldiers at Walter Reed and other VA hospitals and now Libby as the token "fall guy" in Cheney's retaliation of Wilson. The corporate owned media has been far too lenient on Bush's foibles by showing very little opposition to his blunders.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81367Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:00:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81367John GunterThis is more evidence, not opinion, that this administration tilted the evidence, and probaly lied, about the case for Iraq. At best they were hapless, at worst, crimminals.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81383Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:05:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81383P. Brown, Dallas, TexasToday's conviction of Libby is just the latest in the string of revelations giving credence to the notion George W. is winning the race to become known as the worst U.S. president EVER. IMO, he is without doubt the worst in my lifetime. I am almost ashamed to admit having voted for GW's father. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81384Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:05:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81384Jonathan M.Well, thank goodness George W. Bush brought integrity back to the White House just as he promised in the 2000 election. I can't think of a single elected or appointed official of the Federal Government who is worth the price of the rope it would take to hang him or her. Not one. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81389Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:07:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81389Sue Atkinson Flint MichThe Rewards of Loyalty.Although we can not give Libby a pass we must take notice of of all the lies from this administration,all the investigations,all the lives lost in Iraq,All those injured in Iraq,all the money lost in Iraq,all the money not used for our troops protection or our injured heros that return.All the cover ups such as Haliburton.All the demotions,resignations & careers detroyed.How many have to fall before Bush,Cheney,Rove & Rummy are held accountable?Why will the Dems.not demand impeachment?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81396Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:08:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81396John Gunter, Lakewood, COThis hapless President's administration of affairs at home and abroad should remind all Americans how harmful strict party line voting can be. I still recall thinking before the first Bush victory, "this man has no business being President". This is no longer just an opinion, but conclusion evidenced in Iraq and at home with Katrina (just to name two). http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81407Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:10:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81407John Gunter, Lakewood COThis is more evidence, not opinion, that this administration tilted the evidence, and probaly lied, about the case for Iraq. At best they were hapless, at worst, crimminals.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81409Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:11:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81409Leo G., Seattle, WAI am appalled by the vindictiveness and the meanness in many of these posts. No wonder the administration is able to pull the wool over our eyes, we can't even agree on whether it's a crime to tell a lie, or whether sending our country to war for made-up reasons is something to be outraged about. What has happened to our respect for human lives, and respect for the sovereignity of other nations? We used to be the good guys!!! Unless and until we, the people, put a stop to this madness and agree to respect and REQUIRE basic honesty from all parts of our government, we'll get more and more of the same. Has nobody else imagined some country, or group of countries, justifying attacking or invading the US because our leaders are lying, despotic, and thieving (just as we portrayed Saddam Hussein)? I have, and I think it would be pretty easy to convince a populace that our leadership is a threat to world security. Most of the world already believes that about us, given our behavior in the world lately. This government needs to be taken back, BY the PEOPLE, FOR the PEOPLE (rather than by the fatcats and the corporations).http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81410Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:11:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81410Marcus RobinsonThis proves that this administration is corrupt to its core. They knew Ms. Plame was undercover and they outed her..let that sink in. This administration outed a CIA agent working to protect us from the bad guys.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81413Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:12:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81413Joyce JohnkWell at last a DOUBLE STANDARD is displayed. Looks like Libby is going to PRISON, but Sandy Berger got away with his HIDDEN files in his pants & socks and NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING WAS DONE.Seems to me that the Dems., and the main stream media forgot about his lying and all of the things he tried to hide or should I say STEAL, but yet the main stream media and the DEMS are all over Libby ..... But that's the way this country is GOING and GOD HELP US, because we are in A SCARRY time and I hope our Americans realize how we can be ATTACKED by Islamic Facists or whoever else wants this country DESTROYED because in due time, it will happen. GOD HELP US.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81415Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:12:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81415Clint, Lumberton, TXI have read so many comments on here from people comparing the mistakes made by Bush and his administration to mistakes by Clinton and his administration. There is a big difference between the two. As a result of the mistakes of the Bush administration, thousands of American lives have been lost and our country has lost the respect of many individuals and countries around the world.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81418Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:13:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81418Howard GewirtzThe jury having "sympathy" for Libby really means they wish they could have tried and convicted the real culprits, namely Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. Obviously Libby was "just following orders" and he was merely the bag man. If Mr. Bush is serious about trying to salvage his legacy he will use Mr. Cheney's deep vein thrombosis to force the VP to resign for health reasons, thereby eliminating one of his worst image problems -- the worst VP in history, Agnew included. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81428Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:15:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81428Brian, Dutchess County NYThe verdict was correct –Libby lied. However, we all need to ask the follow-up question –WHY? Why would the vice president’s chief-of-staff lie? Why would the administration move swiftly to discredit a former ambassador? Why would they – the most patriotic men in the world – out a CIA operative? Why –because the entire run up to our war in Iraq was based on false, misleading information drafted by this administration. Let us not forget that from the days of the last Bush Admin – there were two no-fly zones in Iraq; one in the north, the other in the south. Under Clinton, our pilots were regularly bombing military installations –on several occasions we fired off cruise missiles. Iraq is a distraction – Osama is still hiding out in the mountain range bordering Pakistan. This administration has wasted time, money and our loyal soldiers on a gambit to secure more oil, instead of attacking the real enemy. Not only do they lie, they’re incompetent to boot!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81433Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:17:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81433Grover Stanturf Portland,OregonThe one common theme I see with the people who disagree with this court decision,is personal attacks on Mr. Mattews,this is a waste of time and money,or "well dont forget the Clinton escapades!".Are we as Americans ever going to have a civel,intelligent debate on these issues! Or are we going to continue like elementry children shouting insults at each other as if we were on a school playground? The jury selected were not just the average joe factory worker,these were professionals some I believe,have experience in the field of justice and after being presented with the facts decided that Mr. Libby, was guilty of five of six counts. So lets discuss these Americans interpretation of the information they recieved in court.Attacking the messenger only accomplishes the increased breeding of ignorance,something I am sure we already have filled our quota of! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81435Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:17:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81435Mark - USA and proud of itIt would be nice if we could apply the same legal standards to Democrats - IE: the former president, his wife, Sandy Burglar, etc. Then we can watch this blog dwindle with its seditious cries of impeachment.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81462Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:24:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81462Katy Lindsay, Houston, TexasArrogance got Libby in this situation. Cheney is right there with him. These are two men along with the other neo-cons that believe what they believe and to hell with anyone else or truth or justice. It is so obvious that Cheney sent someone to Africa from the CIA, and maybe he didn't know it was Wilson that was the person being sent, but after Wilson came back with his findings and it didn't fit into their "we are going to war with Iraq" plan, then they both set out to malign his name including everyone at FOX. I am so happy that Libby was convicted!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81476Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:32:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81476B. Herrst, Lenawee County, MI.what should of happened as soon as the breach was discovered, all the recorded and written material related to the case should have been gathered up, off those involved with the making and recieving the sensitive material, off the off-ers and send the cappers far and away for a very long time...yea it sounds like the usual spy novel but it could work, One needs to police their brass and area. Oviously "scooter" didn't learn anything about "opsec"(oper- ational security), neither did the others. If "who- ever was in charge" had done their job and the ones who participated; the giver and the recievers had practiced their "opsec" this whole thing would have been a "non-issue." There were a lot more persons involved than what we are led to believe. All the papers want to do is fill their pages with names & faces, they don't care who it hurts! Last November, the NY Times ran a series of photos with names & unit designations. A total security breach. It should have been sanitized enough to protect those in the photos. Some of the papers don't know how or don't care about "opsec" because they wouldn't have a story. NY Times is very good for this....So that is just an example of not practicing "opsec". People are just too free with "info". A little here, a little there, piece it all together and you've got what you need to do some damage, and that's exactly what happened. Everybody put a little something to the story and "screwed" up the works....http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81492Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:35:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81492R.B. CaliforniaAnd after all of this, our veterans who made it out alive but have come back from the war bruised and battered, who will care for them or will they be thrown out in the street? NOT this administration, I guarantee you that. Shame, shame, SHAME!!!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81496Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:37:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81496Madeleine MicheleWhere is the outrage from the American people and for that matter the media ?? There are certainly enough criminal offenses to demand the impeachment of Vice President Cheney, if not George W. Bush !! They have both stained the credibility of the White House and no longer deserve our respect or trust. They certainly no longer hold the respect of any other nation at this time. Impeachment should most definitely be sought if only members of Congress and the Senate were brave enough to stand up and insist upon doing the just and honorable thing.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81497Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:37:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81497Andy Jackson, Osterville, MAWhy does Chris Matthews have his panties in a twist over Niger's role , in the first instance? So what? We went to war in Iraq because Bill Clinton's Iraq policy since 1998 was "regime change"; and Sadaam was violating UN sanctions as well as his post-Gulf War I Treaty obligations. Period. A loose canon who, if not put in check, could aid al Qaeda terrorists. Get over the fixation on stupid little Niger and the delusion that Cheney asked Joe Wilson to go there. If Cheney asked Joe to go anywhere it would have been to chat with the British Intelligence Service, who still to this day stand by their Niger intell. Wake up Chris... you're dreaming.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81518Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:42:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81518MDEEGJ, Fort Worth, TxThe only coment on this blog that makes any sense is: C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:43 PM) Since when has "politics and power" produced honesty? All are traitors, liars, thugs, corrupt. You name it and as for "Prosecutors" they lie more than any group of people walking the streets of the U.S.A. It is their greed and power that corrupts. Once the prosecutor feed lies to a jury you can only expect to gain guilty verdicts. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81525Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:44:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81525H A Lewis, Boone, NCMr Matthews: I hope you get the chance to ask Fitzgerald if there was no underlying crime (akin to treason) or if he just can't figure out who to charge. I have heard no good discussion as to if there was a crime. It seems clear that if Mrs. Wilson had a clandestine operation that was compromised for political gain then some ones head should roll. I have heard both Mary Matlin and Orin Hatch both claim on Imus there was no underlying crime - several times. (interesting contrast to Hatches discourse in the importance of perjury when the underlying crime was comparitively trivial in the Clinton impeachment. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81528Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:45:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81528Gordon, Porterville, CALying under oath?.. Bill Clinton.. NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81547Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:49:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81547Helena MT There is a stark contrast between Patrick Fitzgerald and Kenneth Starr. Fitzgerald’s office was tighter than a drum while Star’s office was a master of the news leak. Fitzgerald underplayed his hand while shinning light on the inner working of the White House Starr overplayed his hand and his big fish got away. History will be grateful to Patrick Fitzgerald. History will hunt down Kenneth Starr.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81548Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:50:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81548Gerry StevensMr. Matthews: You and your colleagues have an obligation to this country as reporters to find out if and when Cheney received the information on the CIA fact-finding trip, and why the President lied to this country during the 2003 State of the Union speech about Iran seeking uranium yellowcake in Niger. This cannot ever happen again to this country. We have lost our credibility with the world, and it hast cost countless lives. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81569Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:56:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81569Paulet, Simsbury, CTPeople complaint about the cost of the trial, but when I see billions that have been literally thrown away in Iraq and New Orleans, it is good to see that justice did prevail. Unfortunately, that won't happen with the top tier. Now they should go after Gonsalves on the DOJ fiasco. It's unbelievable watching this mediocre administration just floundering.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81581Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:58:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81581Marie Berch, Las Vegas, Nevada"Too bad closed minds don't come with closed mouths." Anyone still supporting Bush and friends has to be dumb as bricks. They don't want to hear the truth, know the truth or think about what they say. Although I probably won't vote for Clinton for president, I think it is time to forcefully object to the continued lies about Hillary and Bill. We've seen how little regard the Bush administration and their echo chamber have for the truth. They just make up lies whole cloth. Well, think back. They practiced those techniques for 8 years on the Clintons and we "leftists" just let them get away with it. If we have learned anything from the Libby trial, it is that truth and honor mean nothing to these people. We can't change our letting them get away with the boatload of lies and filth they spewed when Clinton was in office or the first few years of Bush's reign, but let us hold them accountable when they lie about this group of presidential candidates. Make them prove comments like, "The Clintons lie with such ease." or that Barak went to a terrorist school. This verdict only matters if we learn something from it and use that knowlege to stop future lies and deceptions.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81584Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:59:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81584Kevin CanteyWEll let's see,this is a bunch of political BS revenge left over from Clinton days. Libby has better things to do than worry about a "nobody" like Plame. She was a CIA office worker--period. Give me a break. Waste of time and money. Hope he wins on appeal. Chris Mathews, Bob Woodward, Bob Novak all are loud mouths. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81607Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:07:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81607Stieg Strand, Eden Prairie, MNIt is sad that we waste our time on this. Did the press forget that Plame was a desk jockey who didn't get de-classified fast enough. Was this really that big a deal. Was she undercover with throat slitters peering around corners of an alley? Please spare me the drama. This is anti-Bush/Cheney retribution pure and simple. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81611Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:10:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81611Eric Lichtig, Corona, CaliforniaThis trail just go to show being a presidential or vice presidential staffer or anyone below the two doesn't always pay because if something goes askew the finger can always be pointed at you. Like my dad said Libby was just a Patsy, reminds me of Ollie North in the Iran contra, they just work their way down the chain until they find someone who is easy to put the blame on or in North's case someone Patriotic enough to take the blame. Our government seems to only run well with good misinformation that is turned into fact. The fact that Saddam wasn't buying uranium from Niger was available to the White House a year before Lil' President Bush made his state of the union address to strike fear into a nation driven by the media is just ludicrous, I'm sure the White House was aware of everything that was going on and didn't have enough information to present to the people of the United States to make them want to support a full invasion of Iraq but with the use of this misinformation and telling the public that Saddam had and could use weapons grade uranium against us in a strike, drove the public into a anti-Iraqi frenzy and after the bombs are dropped and thousand upon thousand troops were deployed does the truth come out and I use the word truth loosely only because it is the truth that the government wants us to believe. The two truths of the United States the one that is fact and the one the general public gets. Maybe they’ll release the actual documentation in 2038 along with all the Kennedy assassination documentation. This whole Libby thing is something for Oliver Stone to make into a comedy. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81612Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:10:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81612Renard SC Someone said that republicans should be able to lie because Bill Clinton lied. I think people should tell the truth no matter what political party they represent. but Clinton lie did not have wives, husbands, fathers and mothers following their love ones into the cemetery .http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81623Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:15:00 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81623Jay ChicagoThis is not a victory! Why dont we call it what is really is- another political black eye on our country! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81625Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:15:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81625Judith, Los AngelesThank God, there may be justice in the world yet. Libby is Cheney's right-hand man and Cheney is the most corrupt man ever to sit in the Vice-President's Chair. The two of them should end up sharing a cell, but Cheney's vast wealth will keep him out of prison, but he's an old, sickly man and I'd hate to be him when he has to make a final accounting for his immense greed and wicked deeds.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81639Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:20:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81639G.T. Greensage, Houston, Tx. It seems as most people here are talking heads for CNN. Valerie Plume was not outed because she DID NOT qualify as a covert agent. She was an analyst. It's funny how all you Clinton backers state that lying about sex is not as bad as lying about this. Is that what you teach your kids? Kids, it's okay to lie, cheat and steal because there are different acceptable levels. Face it, while old Bill was getting it on with Monica he was neglecting out country. He is directly responsible for 911 due to the fact he could have had Bin Laden but refused to accept him. And lets not kid ourselves, most, if not all of the politicians in this country are crooks to some degree. Should I go down the list of Democratic idiots? Kennedy basically comitted manslaughter and was he ever charged or convicted? The reason this country is like it is is because people vote the same politicians in again and again. So please spare me how the Democratic party is holier than thou. As Democrats complained about the Republicans with Clinton, this trial was all about politics. Isn't everything?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81654Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:25:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81654Mike PoppeOnce again, Dick Cheney sits in the background, and avoids responsibility for being the real culprit. Have to admire Scooter for his loyalty, as misguided as it may be. Of course, he knows that a pardon will surely be coming his way at the end of Bush's term. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#81664Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:28:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:81664Don Hartman, Lexington, KYChris, keep going... you are a beacon of sanity in an otherwise insane Washington, DC. We all must work at smoking out the truth if this democracy is to survive.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83039Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:39:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83039George J. Mc LaughlinWe the people should thank GOD we only have less than two years to put up with this administration.The other side of the coin is we have to take care of some of these people for the rest of their lives. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83048Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:52:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83048Anderson, Richton Park ILI am so pleased that Libby did not get away with this. I hope the people hear the louder message of what this situation is telling us about Cheney.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83078Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:17:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83078Pam McG, Columbus, OhioTo Josh, in San Diego. You asked who is outraged by all that has taken place with Libby, Cheney and Bush? I AM! I've watched with amazement at what this Administration has been able to get away with. It's deplorable and I'm angry. Bush and his administration has played fast and loose with the constitution. I do think Libby is guilty, but I also think he is the fall guy for Rove, Cheney & Bush. Cheney claims Libby is a close friend? Then why doesn't Cheney step up and tell the whole truth? If Cheney is a friend, then I'm Queen Elizabeth. It's time this whole administration is called to accountability! Bush will, more than likely, pardon Libby which will just seal in my mind that Bush is a liar and a cheat.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83080Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:19:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83080Doris Hill, Jacksonville FLI have to say that anyone who is still talking about the Clintons needs to get some new material. It doesn't work any more. Blaming Bill for 911, get real! Or, comparing his lying about his affair with Monica to Libby's lying to about misinformation that lead us to a war we should have never been involved in is ridiculous. And to still support this administration, you must be as stubborn and ego driven as they are. You, like George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, are not willing to admit that you were wrong! Keep on making excuses and blaming the other guy. Maybe someone will agree with you, but we know the truth.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83122Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:43:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83122Paul W. Quattrone, Wintersville ,OhioNo crime....No time...... Jus t an over zeolous prosecutor with politics from the left.... Mr. Libby and Mr. Russert seemed to have the same memory lapse.. As for you progressives crying about national security.....Ms. Plames was not harmed, other than making her and Mr. Wilson weathy..... National security was harmed by former Presisdent William Jefferson Clinton visa via National secretes to China... & of course the upstanding paper stuffing Mr. Sandy Burger....& Mr Ron Brown.... Our Country needs to fight the war on terror together....So from the lefts own words"Lets move on"......http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83128Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:47:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83128Paul D, ChicagoDelay,Cunningham,Foley,Libby.. Bin Laden,Iraq,Katrina. We can all thank the republican party for the corruption and mismanagement they have brought to our great country. He wants to be a War President? He needs himself a War!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83136Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:54:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83136D Bruner, FloridaNobody cares because Americans have been dumbed down and made to expect they have no say before the ruling class. But remember what these Officals say about "rule of Law" and its role in a stable society. Then look what we have, millionare government officials taking bribes, profiting from war, selling drugs from the school principals office! It all matters and it contributes to a less safe and unstable country for our children. We have big problems at home and our only power is to take back our country from the millionares when we vote. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83140Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:56:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83140P. Washington, Phoenix , AZUnbelievable, that so many are still trying to defend the Bush admin. Comparing a lie about sex,(that I will not defend) to a lie that has cost this country so dearly in terms of both lives and money. More importantly the lives lost.But, sadly this dog and pony show will not change anything with this admin.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83157Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83157Sue Nachor, Albuquerque, New MexicoI find it incredible that there are so many here blogging that can still cry about the Bush/Cheney et al innocence at this point. How does one actually keep that kind of blind loyalty going when all the facts are laid out? Do y'all think that Nixon was innocent too? Of course you do...what exactly do you think your undying/unthinking loyalty gives you?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83179Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:14:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83179Eric Ross, Cape Coral, FL"Plame" and simple--this is no big deal to the American public in general. The only people outside Washington that care about this case are the Bush haters. Guess what? They hated him before the trial, they hated him before Katrina, they hated him before Iraq and they hated him the day he got into office and they will continue to hate him until he's no longer President. Furthermore, he's not running in 08. Better hurry up dems, you only have a year left to impeach him....or you'll never beat him. He'll ride off in the Texas sunset and you'll just be small and angry, as usual.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83188Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:22:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83188don high lewisville texas i say let us impeach king george and replace cheney with some convict who we know is a liar ,couldnt be any worse off than we are now http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83189Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:23:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83189Sarah Gray, Lake, MII found the defense position incredible. To expect us to believe that any person in Libby's position could have such a faulty memory - and everyone apparently knew it! - is laughable. I think we all know Libby was the fall guy, just as we know he will be pardoned. I just hope he has the courage to spill all that he knows and names names pre-sentencing. The legacy of this administration will be its arrogance. It confirms that absolute power corrupts absolutely. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83191Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:24:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83191Deborah H.People,people,people!What's all the fuss? If this administration can make military records disappear that proved the president to be an absentee National Guard soldier,then what is suprising to anyone when the stench of a few illegal activities filters out? I am the proud daughter and wife of veterans who went to war because their country called them. I also remember specifically that when the Viet Nam war was on the only boys that got into the National Guard were ones with money and or political pull. That is no longer the case. Our National Guard is now vital to our very safty due to this b######t war started by someone who dodged his duty to all of us. Sure am glad I didn't vote for him,I'd hate to have that guilt.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83205Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:37:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83205warm apple pieLibby will get a pardon! Unfortunately the average Joe Shmoe would be rotting in jail if he or she perjured themself to a Federal grand jury, but Libby was just doing dirty work for his bosses, and they will feel compelled to see that he gets off! Sadly America is becomming a country where if you have enough money and power then there is about an 80% chance you are going to get a get out of jail free card. You have a few like Martha Stuart and the Enron execs, and some others who don't buy there way out, but the odds are definately in there favor. A poor American might as well just plead guilty and hurry and serve there time to get it over with, because there will be no pardons comming there way! What a pathetic rotten unmoral world this is becomming. Truth, honor, justice, and moral values are becomming a very rare commodity around here! All of us Americans, Democrats and Republicans should be ashamed of what we have become and where we are headed! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83221Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:49:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83221H LeWar is only costly to the ones who make sacrifices, or being made to sacrify, not to the war profiteers. Vietnam war was started on a false pretense, the results were 3.5 million deaths, including 58,000 Americans, several millions maimed, hundreds of thousands continue to die even 32 years after the war was over, and several American billionaires. Yes, war is "the" business for folks like Cheney and others. Vietnam war only stopped when China became a more lucrative money making opportunity than fighting the war in Vietnam. One just have to wonder how many more billions have these billionaires gained from this war? The idea of putting the military under the command of civilians is a great one, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT THOSE WHO DIRECTLY, AND INDIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM IT. These war profiteers work or have their agents work in Washington, Pentagon. The power of war should not rest on the politicians, not the president, certainly NOT the vice, not Congress. The power should be given to the American people, who have to eventually bear the consequences and losses. The American voters must fight for a chance to vote to authorize war. From here on out, the American people must not allow people like Chenney (and may be Bush) to take the high office. Those who have benefit from wars ought not to be trusted w/ power to star/run wars. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83237Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:58:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83237Mike, DCThis administration is bankrupting this country, destroying our international credibility, and killing thousands, all in order to line the pockets of their buddies. On Bush's watch: The U.S. goes from having a surplus in the budget to having the largest deficit we have ever had; China becomes a superpower; Russia slips back into Communism; North Korea and Iran go for nukes. And what does Bush do? He invades Iraq without a plan. GREAT JOB!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83249Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:06:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83249Tom Dixon, Madison, WisconsinIt is a fact that Cheney set in motion the trip to Africa. When he didn't get what he wanted, he buried it. There was no attempt to purchase uranium yellowcake - yet the right wingers continue to try to parlay that falsehood into an excuse for outing a patriot because her patriot husband told the truth. Thank God for the courage of the few Joe Wilsons we have left in this country who are willing to do the right thing, even in the face of the evil behavior of this destructive and power mad bunch. Please - let's take the country back that I was willing to serve. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83467Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:17:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83467John MThe treasonous actsof this administration have only begun to be uncovered. My concern is about the wholesale transfer of our economic power to other countries and the depletion of the human capital in the form of teaching our kids to learn to a structured test rather than learn critical thinking skills that will provide an intellectual future for this great country, we now have to import intellect. This administration has modeled the counrty after themselves, LIMITED , DULL, RIGID and dishonest. WHAT DOES THIS HOLD FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY? ITS TIME FOR CHANGE. It is too late for impeachment. Start organizing for honest, intelligent change for our great counrty NOW and support and vote for change in the next election. Dont forget the past!!!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83468Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:17:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83468Joe Hodge Atlanta, GAIts a shame you folks feel this way about Lewis Libby. Mrs Plame was not a covert agent, therefore she could not be outed. I guess you all may be a big bunch of liberals. Just like NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC and members of the Democratic Party. I think President Bush and Vice President Chenney are great men. I'm proud of both of them. Please be fair and place this out with the rest of them.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83501Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:38:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83501Syd Anderson, Bedford, MassI've seen several comments comparing Clinton's lie to Libby's lie (Bush and Cheney's lie). Nobody died because Clinton lied about a question he should never have been asked. Whereas, the lie that led to the Iraq war has caused death and incredible pain for thousands. The void left in thousands of families will never be filled. Bush is the worst president ever! http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83542Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:54:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83542Stephen MerkerThanks to people like you and you network, the real story gets out on everyone in our government, Democrat or Republican. I wish the people who write in to you and tell others over and over again and Clinton's impeachable zipper lie,sit back and think about what Bush and his gang have lied about and compare the difference between a zipper and Iraq. Bush and Cheney should be up on war crime charges now.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83564Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:03:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83564Allen Durden, Jacksonville, FlHow about this for a '08 Presidential ticket: Elliott Spitzer/Patrick Fitzgerald. Perhaps the only two men in American politics with integrity, resolve, honor, and the people's trust.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83604Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:28:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83604Greg Lawrence, Elgin,ORThere are obviously a lot of Fox News watchers entering views in this blog. Contrary to Fox New The Facts Are. Valerie Plame was a covert agent and it was against the law to out her. Joe Wilson was sent to Nigier because Chaney requested information and not for any other reason. Chaney got out of his part of the trouble by claiming to have declassified the information although there is no proof of this and the Veep is not leagally able to declassify this type of information. Fox news and this administration knows that the more often you say something the more likely that the ignorant are to accept it as fact.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83608Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:29:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83608Paul, Union City, NJThis administration appears to be above the law. Like the line from Skull & Bones - Above all others. We need another Geroge Washington. Good/strong enough to be King, but honest enough to walk away from it. Still think Dick should take W bird hunting and be sure to have that beer for lunch.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83620Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:33:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83620David SitesBush, Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice should be in handcuffs before an international war crimes tribunal. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83749Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:26:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83749Sharon Ammons, Lubbock, TexasIf Presidetn Bush pardons Libby, what about the two border patrol agents defending our border? Libby was in a high position of US government. He is just another example of this administration and power politics. In the meantime, we have two guys sitting in jail for shooting at a Mexian drug dealer. I'm confused.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83796Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:46:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83796Robert Anderson"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years." Who can you trust when everyone lies? That is really the question that America faces. Joseph Wilson claims that Bush lied, but his own account in the joint probe on WMD contradicts that assertion. Nigeria affirmed to Wilson that Iraq sought to purchase uranium. Democrats claim that Bush lied, but their own words echo what Bush said all along. The quote above is not from George W. Bush. Rather, it is Senator Jay Rockefeller, the Democratic Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee. And he was not alone in his assessment of Iraq before the war. Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton spoke in similar fashion. The media has, for the most part, upheld the Wilson/Democrat assertion that Bush lied. How can educated people (as I firmly believe most members of the media to be) view the aforementioned actions and decide that only Bush has lied? It just seems as if to catch a red liar, the blues have decided to lie as well. And when you lie to prove that someone else is a liar, all moral ground is lost. What happened to the mission to "report" and to "search for the truth"? We all expected the politicians to lie to further their agenda. The greatest travesty of this ordeal was to learn that we now should expect this type of behavior from the media, as well. Who can you trust when everyone lies?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83824Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:58:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83824charles malitsch, Bethlehem pa.This was a kangeroo court of LIBERALS in a LIBERAL town convicting a REPUBLICAN over a non crime . This is a waste of the federal liberal "non justice" department. The liberal jurors couldn't wait to get to the microphones after the trial . Scooter Libby , a decent man caught up as an innocent bystander in the dirty game of WASHINGTON POLITICS !!!http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83894Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:48:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83894Phil LomasonIf George W. Bush has the gall to pardon Libby, then the successor president should turn Bush over to European authorities, for trial as a war criminal. He invaded a country without cause. Germany and France knew better.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83903Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:52:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83903Jack LProsecutors hate to be lied to – and they will nail your hide to the wall if they catch you in the act. Scooter Libby lied under oath and got caught. It’s as simple as that. Perhaps the Bush administration has become so practiced at spinning the truth that it has became second nature to them. Patrick Fitzgerald proved once again that no matter how high up in the government you soar that perseverance, a sharp mind and the laws of this nation can reach out and bring down to earth someone who attempts to hide the truth. In his own unique way Chris Matthews has the soul of a prosecutor, always trying to uncover the truth from those who try to conceal and spin. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83906Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:53:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83906Eric, Plainville, CtThis Administration has demoralized the patriotic and honest American public. I was flabbergasted when Bush won in 2000. All, or most of the exit polls had Kerry ahead by a good margin. Think there was any fraud involved there? Only takes a Computer wizard to install a chip in each computerized voting machine. Mr Wilson' investigation should have been accepted and our main objective shoul've been to find Bin Laden and deal with him first. Instead Bush had the gall to go after Hussein because he "tried to kill my Dad". Bush did what he wanted to do. Not what the evidence proved to be the right path. As a Viet Nam Veteran and a proud American I am ashamed to admit that our Government has sunk so low. The International community sees just what is going on here and they don't like it either.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83907Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:54:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83907David Schoen, Los Angeles,Ca.What can you say of an administration that uses the tragedy of nearly 3000 american souls only for it's own political gain? Should there not be a full congressional hearing now on who ordered the trip and report on Niger? Who actually received the report? Surely it is time for the truth to be told.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83959Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:28:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83959Danny FarnsworthThe pardon is already in for Libby just as it was with Nixon. Libby will sit around for 20 months, get pardoned and then become a political analyst for NBC. Nixon's deal was faster, because it isn't everyday one gets to become President without ever being elected to the job and the time factor was critical for Nixon and Ford. It's a shame that NBC went from having the greatest news reporting to reporting gossip today...http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83965Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:29:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83965William Porter, Rochester NYAt this point, anyone who can't see that lying to feds is a felony, is blinded by partisan politics...We are at war under false pretenses(no WMD's or uranium from Africa)and some of us can't see past party affiliation. I is a shame and we should all be afraid of the direction we are headed. We are all Americans and all have a stake in it's future...At some point, we have to put politics aside and do what's right for all, not just a few who are politically connected...What happened to "The great Uniter" that less than 50% of the population voted for???http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83969Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:32:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83969John, OmahaWhere can I buy the book Scooter is going to write?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83977Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:38:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83977tl cole botkins ohioRemenber NATALIE MAINES comment about Bush. Seems she was 100% right. You got this veterans approval girl, tell it like it is.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#83982Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:43:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:83982Ed, Wilson, NCSo, let me get this straight. Valerie Plame's name was outed to Bob Novak by Dick Armitage from State. Armitage admitted this to Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald, knowing who did it, continues his investigation and gets someone "caught in a lie". Then prosecutes them for trying to obstruct an investigation in which he KNEW the answer to? Hmmm, this seems fishy to me. I just hope the FBI never has to question me about something they already know the answer to and that if they do I sure hope I can remember who I told what to and when. Would it be fair to say that if Scooter Libby had intentionally lied to investigators about a discount he got on a new car that they could have charged him with perjury? This just sucks...and it scares me....and by the way all you progressives, if a woman has a right to choose an abortion, why don't I have the right to tell the FBI a lie?http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84815Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:01:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84815Anderson, Richton Park ILThere are people who feel that Libby should not be punished. Why does the Bush Administration feel that committing perjury (lying) and obstruction of justice is OK? This Administration has proven, repeatedly, to be untrustworthyhttp://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84823Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:05:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84823jim e spanish fork, utahI feel sad. I have followed politics all my life(about 50 years). I ahve voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. i have looked at each person and what they supposedly believe in, and have come to the following conclusion: it does not matter who is in power in Washington, D.C. the American public is SCREWED!!!. HEY POLITICIANS, YOU ARE ALL LYING CROOKS NO MATTER WHAT PARTY YOU REPRESENT. So don't get all high and mighty accusing each other.We know the next administration will be no better than the last. that is what is so sad. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84845Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:31:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84845D.Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca.A visitor from another planet would look at this society and see a leader who is blatently unqualified and unbalanced. The visitor will also see that the majority of that society do not care. The administrative leaders of that society on all levels are corrupt and do not fulfill their responsibilities to the people who elected them. I think that those visitors would not even want to get in touch with a society as weird as ours.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84848Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:32:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84848Jane, Burgaw, NCEd says: "if a woman has a right to choose an abortion, why don't I have the right to tell the FBI a lie?" If you can make a correlation between those two issues, then you're beyond the point of seeing anything reasonably or rationally. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84863Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:46:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84863M V, Brooklyn, NYMany comments have been made to impeach this administration. What are the grounds for impeachment? Also,will you clarify the impeachment process? If this administration did perpetrate grounds for impeachment, why hasn't the process started? http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84890Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:02:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84890David Reeves-Brown, NCAs a 100% service-connected, totally disabled, wheelchair-bound veteran, injured in the line of duty, what really saddens me is the total ignorance and complete lack of common sense displayed by those, on this and other boards, who continue to blindly be led by PROVEN liars... It would be another story if we didn't have all these "inconvenient" FACTS with which to base our judgements. However, the facts are there, in plain sight, for all who want to see the truth. Ignorance is exclaiming on a national forum that "...Plame setup Wilsons trip so he could come back and lie about it..." It has been WELL established by ALL investigative branches that Ms. Plame had nothing to do with her husbands trip - nothing at all! Last but not least: to those who still quote the mantra "we're fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here", I wonder if you are aware that it is now a recognized fact - (even admitted by the President)IRAQ had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11, nor did IRAQ have ANY ties to Bin Ladens or any other terrorist groups. So am I to believe either A) you are totally uninformed but willing to make yourself look like an idot, or B) you do know the truth but believe it is totally ok to start a war on an unprovoked nation, bomb the hell out of it, kill 3000+ of my brothers and sisters in arms, kill possibly hundreds of thousands of innocent non-combatants, and ruin our great reputation as a nation - all to "possibly" drag a few thousand "terrorists" into a rangefinder so that we can kill them "there"? Obviously I don't believe my little paragraph here will have any effect on those of you who refuse to see the facts or have been too frightened by now to even open your eyes. As a soldier I just feel that I have EARNED the right to speak my mind. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84894Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:04:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84894Albert StraussFitzgerald was brilliant I can prove Libby committed perjury beyond a reasonable doubt and thus expose Cheney. without any legal machinations (covert or cover etc)http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84902Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:12:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84902Dorri Steinhoff, Bexley, OHWhy did the CIA ask for an investigation of the outing if Ms Plame was not covert? This is serious business that will effect our future ability to protect this country. Please consider hosting one of Ms Plame's former colleagues, such as Larry Johnson, to better inform the public of the significance of this case.http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/06/80439.aspx#84917Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:27:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:84917Kenneth Daniel, Leesburg, VaHaving spent over 35 years in the intelligence community as a GI, a DoD intelligence analyst, and a DoD contractor building intelligence systems for the government, I tend to look at his whole situation a little differently from most of the others placing posts here. After reading these opinions...very few facts are actually presented...one thing is clear: the dumbing down of America is progressing at warp speed. Rather than analyze facts for ourselves and come to a conclusion, we prefer to adopt a political agenda from those that we like (either media talking heads or members of Congress...who will say or do anything to get elected). The fact that no-one was "outed" since she was not a covert agent is conveniently forgotten so some can rant about treason and impeachment. The fact that Bush stated in his address that "british intelligence..." has been ignored because it is and was a fact. And we immediately forgive some members of Congress who complained about being "mislead"...were they all asleep during their intelligence briefings, to dumb to understand what they were being told, or just employing selective memory techniques so they can distance themselves from an unpopular war and thus gain personal power? The real lessons from all this are: 1. "Follow the money"...when someone wants to convince you of something, what's in it for them? Money, power, or both? 2. "Don't believe everything you read in the paper or see on TV"...think for yourself, examine whatever facts you can uncover, and reach your own conclusions. Watch both CNN and Fox, you'll get all the opinions from the edges...the truth is somewhere in between. Read both the Washington Post and the Washington Times for the same reason. 3. We no longer have the will to engage in a war, no matter the justification. Wars are ugly things and our military is trained to kill people and break things, not act as good-will ambassadors to whatever country or people who got into trouble. Wars, once begun, are not games with reset, pause, or quit buttons when things are not going our way. Let's not forget that we haven't won a war since WWII because of incessant meddling by those least qualified to manage a military action: members of Congress. And this situation isn't likely to change as long as they can walk out onto the Capitol steps and knowingly lie to us to promote their own agendas...especially since we reward them for this action by re-electing them! 4. We should challenge all those "investigative journalists" who make their living following politics: Determine how members of Congress, no matter the party, always manage to increase their personal wealth while in office even though their pay is barely sufficient to live in the DC area. Now there's a program I'd watch!